From rsalmon at tulane.edu  Tue Sep  5 08:29:19 2006
From: rsalmon at tulane.edu (Rene Salmon)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:29:19 -0500
Subject: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?
Message-ID: <44FD97CF.6000406@tulane.edu>

Hi list,


I am new to caos and happen to run into the www site while looking for 
an RPM based linux distro.

I am interested in using caos on an infiniband linux cluster.  More 
specifically the OpenIB stack or OFED-1.0

Has anyone tried to or know if OFED-1.0 will compile and work with caos?
I know OFED will compile and work on 2.6.16 vanilla kernels but not sure 
what the caos kernel looks like or if it has any patches that might 
cause problems.

Thanks for any help or info on this.

Rene



-- 
-
--
         Rene Salmon
         Tulane University
         Center for Computational Science
         http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
	rsalmon at tulane.edu
         Tel 504-862-8393
	Tel 504-988-8552
         Fax 504-862-8392



From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Tue Sep  5 08:54:13 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:54:13 -0700
Subject: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?
In-Reply-To: <44FD97CF.6000406@tulane.edu>
References: <44FD97CF.6000406@tulane.edu>
Message-ID: <FB6578B6-0A08-481A-A7D0-10D57175D149@runlevelzero.net>

I use cAos-2 with several large IB clusters. When I was building the  
clusters, the open-IB stack was in a constant state of flux and the  
API was changing almost weekly (which made it very hard always  
playing catchup with open-mpi). As a result, I am using the Topspin  
commercial drivers, with a rebuilt RHEL-4 kernel and open-mpi built  
against their mvapi. It works great actually! :)

Presently our cAos-2 kernel has 2 major patches to it. One is for  
suspend2, and the other is grsecurity. If you would like to work on a  
caos2/3 kernel that comes with ofed/openib there maybe some others  
that could help.

BTW, are you going to also run Warewulf or Perceus on this cluster  
(for the node management)?

Good luck!
Greg

On Sep 5, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Rene Salmon wrote:

> Hi list,
>
>
> I am new to caos and happen to run into the www site while looking for
> an RPM based linux distro.
>
> I am interested in using caos on an infiniband linux cluster.  More
> specifically the OpenIB stack or OFED-1.0
>
> Has anyone tried to or know if OFED-1.0 will compile and work with  
> caos?
> I know OFED will compile and work on 2.6.16 vanilla kernels but not  
> sure
> what the caos kernel looks like or if it has any patches that might
> cause problems.
>
> Thanks for any help or info on this.
>
> Rene
>
>
>
> -- 
> -
> --
>          Rene Salmon
>          Tulane University
>          Center for Computational Science
>          http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
> 	rsalmon at tulane.edu
>          Tel 504-862-8393
> 	Tel 504-988-8552
>          Fax 504-862-8392
>
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos

--
Greg Kurtzer
gmk at runlevelzero.net





From astevens at gravitypark.com  Tue Sep  5 11:48:43 2006
From: astevens at gravitypark.com (Arthur A. Stevens)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:48:43 -0700
Subject: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?
References: <44FD97CF.6000406@tulane.edu>
	<FB6578B6-0A08-481A-A7D0-10D57175D149@runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <004701c6d11b$eb126010$0d00a8c0@astevens>

I can assist with patching if anything in our kernel is off from the 
vanilla. I doubt the security patching we do will affect what it is after 
but could be wrong. We can help modify the patch if so, just let me know.

Arthur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Kurtzer" <gmk at runlevelzero.net>
To: "Community Assembled OS" <caos at caosity.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?


>I use cAos-2 with several large IB clusters. When I was building the
> clusters, the open-IB stack was in a constant state of flux and the
> API was changing almost weekly (which made it very hard always
> playing catchup with open-mpi). As a result, I am using the Topspin
> commercial drivers, with a rebuilt RHEL-4 kernel and open-mpi built
> against their mvapi. It works great actually! :)
>
> Presently our cAos-2 kernel has 2 major patches to it. One is for
> suspend2, and the other is grsecurity. If you would like to work on a
> caos2/3 kernel that comes with ofed/openib there maybe some others
> that could help.
>
> BTW, are you going to also run Warewulf or Perceus on this cluster
> (for the node management)?
>
> Good luck!
> Greg
>
> On Sep 5, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Rene Salmon wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>>
>> I am new to caos and happen to run into the www site while looking for
>> an RPM based linux distro.
>>
>> I am interested in using caos on an infiniband linux cluster.  More
>> specifically the OpenIB stack or OFED-1.0
>>
>> Has anyone tried to or know if OFED-1.0 will compile and work with
>> caos?
>> I know OFED will compile and work on 2.6.16 vanilla kernels but not
>> sure
>> what the caos kernel looks like or if it has any patches that might
>> cause problems.
>>
>> Thanks for any help or info on this.
>>
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> -
>> --
>>          Rene Salmon
>>          Tulane University
>>          Center for Computational Science
>>          http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
>> rsalmon at tulane.edu
>>          Tel 504-862-8393
>> Tel 504-988-8552
>>          Fax 504-862-8392
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cAos mailing list
>> cAos at caosity.org
>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>
> --
> Greg Kurtzer
> gmk at runlevelzero.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
> 




From laytonjb at charter.net  Tue Sep  5 12:00:26 2006
From: laytonjb at charter.net (Jeffrey B. Layton)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:00:26 -0400
Subject: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?
In-Reply-To: <FB6578B6-0A08-481A-A7D0-10D57175D149@runlevelzero.net>
References: <44FD97CF.6000406@tulane.edu>
	<FB6578B6-0A08-481A-A7D0-10D57175D149@runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <44FDC94A.7050703@charter.net>

What's the targeted vanilla kernel version for cAos-3?

Jeff

> I use cAos-2 with several large IB clusters. When I was building the  
> clusters, the open-IB stack was in a constant state of flux and the  
> API was changing almost weekly (which made it very hard always  
> playing catchup with open-mpi). As a result, I am using the Topspin  
> commercial drivers, with a rebuilt RHEL-4 kernel and open-mpi built  
> against their mvapi. It works great actually! :)
>
> Presently our cAos-2 kernel has 2 major patches to it. One is for  
> suspend2, and the other is grsecurity. If you would like to work on a  
> caos2/3 kernel that comes with ofed/openib there maybe some others  
> that could help.
>
> BTW, are you going to also run Warewulf or Perceus on this cluster  
> (for the node management)?
>
> Good luck!
> Greg
>
> On Sep 5, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Rene Salmon wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi list,
>>
>>
>> I am new to caos and happen to run into the www site while looking for
>> an RPM based linux distro.
>>
>> I am interested in using caos on an infiniband linux cluster.  More
>> specifically the OpenIB stack or OFED-1.0
>>
>> Has anyone tried to or know if OFED-1.0 will compile and work with  
>> caos?
>> I know OFED will compile and work on 2.6.16 vanilla kernels but not  
>> sure
>> what the caos kernel looks like or if it has any patches that might
>> cause problems.
>>
>> Thanks for any help or info on this.
>>
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> -
>> --
>>          Rene Salmon
>>          Tulane University
>>          Center for Computational Science
>>          http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
>> 	rsalmon at tulane.edu
>>          Tel 504-862-8393
>> 	Tel 504-988-8552
>>          Fax 504-862-8392
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cAos mailing list
>> cAos at caosity.org
>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>>     
>
> --
> Greg Kurtzer
> gmk at runlevelzero.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>
>   


From astevens at gravitypark.com  Tue Sep  5 13:31:38 2006
From: astevens at gravitypark.com (Arthur A. Stevens)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:31:38 -0700
Subject: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?
References: <44FD97CF.6000406@tulane.edu><FB6578B6-0A08-481A-A7D0-10D57175D149@runlevelzero.net>
	<44FDC94A.7050703@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c6d12a$4d4ea870$0d00a8c0@astevens>

Were at 2.6.17.11 currently and plan to stay 'current' for the most part. By 
enhancing the kernel with security patches, we have the ability to reboot 
into new kernels less often.

I hope that answered that question :)

Arthur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey B. Layton" <laytonjb at charter.net>
To: "Community Assembled OS" <caos at caosity.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?


> What's the targeted vanilla kernel version for cAos-3?
>
> Jeff
>
>> I use cAos-2 with several large IB clusters. When I was building the
>> clusters, the open-IB stack was in a constant state of flux and the
>> API was changing almost weekly (which made it very hard always
>> playing catchup with open-mpi). As a result, I am using the Topspin
>> commercial drivers, with a rebuilt RHEL-4 kernel and open-mpi built
>> against their mvapi. It works great actually! :)
>>
>> Presently our cAos-2 kernel has 2 major patches to it. One is for
>> suspend2, and the other is grsecurity. If you would like to work on a
>> caos2/3 kernel that comes with ofed/openib there maybe some others
>> that could help.
>>
>> BTW, are you going to also run Warewulf or Perceus on this cluster
>> (for the node management)?
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Greg
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Rene Salmon wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>>
>>> I am new to caos and happen to run into the www site while looking for
>>> an RPM based linux distro.
>>>
>>> I am interested in using caos on an infiniband linux cluster.  More
>>> specifically the OpenIB stack or OFED-1.0
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried to or know if OFED-1.0 will compile and work with
>>> caos?
>>> I know OFED will compile and work on 2.6.16 vanilla kernels but not
>>> sure
>>> what the caos kernel looks like or if it has any patches that might
>>> cause problems.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help or info on this.
>>>
>>> Rene
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> -
>>> --
>>>          Rene Salmon
>>>          Tulane University
>>>          Center for Computational Science
>>>          http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
>>> rsalmon at tulane.edu
>>>          Tel 504-862-8393
>>> Tel 504-988-8552
>>>          Fax 504-862-8392
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cAos mailing list
>>> cAos at caosity.org
>>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Greg Kurtzer
>> gmk at runlevelzero.net
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cAos mailing list
>> cAos at caosity.org
>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
> 




From rsalmon at tulane.edu  Tue Sep  5 13:59:12 2006
From: rsalmon at tulane.edu (Rene Salmon)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:59:12 -0500
Subject: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?
In-Reply-To: <FB6578B6-0A08-481A-A7D0-10D57175D149@runlevelzero.net>
References: <44FD97CF.6000406@tulane.edu>
	<FB6578B6-0A08-481A-A7D0-10D57175D149@runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <44FDE520.2000101@tulane.edu>

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.  That sounds like a good compromise.  Our IB 
vendor is Voltaire and they also have RHEL and SLES commercial drivers 
we can use.  To get this running for now I will try what you did and use 
the RHEL kernel with caos.

I will look at getting OFED/openib running on the caos kernel later on.

Up till now we ran Bproc with suse 9.1 on our diskless cluster.  We 
really liked Bproc but now that we are using infiniband we need 
something else.  We are thinking of using xcpu http://www.xcpu.org along 
with OneSIS http://www.onesis.org.

I will give Warewulf or Perceus a look as well.

Thank you

Rene










Greg Kurtzer wrote:
> I use cAos-2 with several large IB clusters. When I was building the  
> clusters, the open-IB stack was in a constant state of flux and the  
> API was changing almost weekly (which made it very hard always  
> playing catchup with open-mpi). As a result, I am using the Topspin  
> commercial drivers, with a rebuilt RHEL-4 kernel and open-mpi built  
> against their mvapi. It works great actually! :)
> 
> Presently our cAos-2 kernel has 2 major patches to it. One is for  
> suspend2, and the other is grsecurity. If you would like to work on a  
> caos2/3 kernel that comes with ofed/openib there maybe some others  
> that could help.
> 
> BTW, are you going to also run Warewulf or Perceus on this cluster  
> (for the node management)?
> 
> Good luck!
> Greg
> 
> On Sep 5, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Rene Salmon wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>>
>>
>> I am new to caos and happen to run into the www site while looking for
>> an RPM based linux distro.
>>
>> I am interested in using caos on an infiniband linux cluster.  More
>> specifically the OpenIB stack or OFED-1.0
>>
>> Has anyone tried to or know if OFED-1.0 will compile and work with  
>> caos?
>> I know OFED will compile and work on 2.6.16 vanilla kernels but not  
>> sure
>> what the caos kernel looks like or if it has any patches that might
>> cause problems.
>>
>> Thanks for any help or info on this.
>>
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> -
>> --
>>          Rene Salmon
>>          Tulane University
>>          Center for Computational Science
>>          http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
>> 	rsalmon at tulane.edu
>>          Tel 504-862-8393
>> 	Tel 504-988-8552
>>          Fax 504-862-8392
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cAos mailing list
>> cAos at caosity.org
>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
> 
> --
> Greg Kurtzer
> gmk at runlevelzero.net
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos

-- 
-
--
         Rene Salmon
         Tulane University
         Center for Computational Science
         http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
	rsalmon at tulane.edu
         Tel 504-862-8393
	Tel 504-988-8552
         Fax 504-862-8392



From laytonjb at charter.net  Tue Sep  5 14:04:49 2006
From: laytonjb at charter.net (Jeffrey B. Layton)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:04:49 -0400
Subject: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?
In-Reply-To: <44FDE520.2000101@tulane.edu>
References: <44FD97CF.6000406@tulane.edu>	<FB6578B6-0A08-481A-A7D0-10D57175D149@runlevelzero.net>
	<44FDE520.2000101@tulane.edu>
Message-ID: <44FDE671.1070405@charter.net>

Since Greg is the developer of both Perceus and Warewulf,
and he's gotten them to work with IB, I bet this is a great
place to get help :) I would also suggest the Warewulf list.

Good luck!

Jeff

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the reply.  That sounds like a good compromise.  Our IB 
> vendor is Voltaire and they also have RHEL and SLES commercial drivers 
> we can use.  To get this running for now I will try what you did and use 
> the RHEL kernel with caos.
>
> I will look at getting OFED/openib running on the caos kernel later on.
>
> Up till now we ran Bproc with suse 9.1 on our diskless cluster.  We 
> really liked Bproc but now that we are using infiniband we need 
> something else.  We are thinking of using xcpu http://www.xcpu.org along 
> with OneSIS http://www.onesis.org.
>
> I will give Warewulf or Perceus a look as well.
>
> Thank you
>
> Rene
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Greg Kurtzer wrote:
>   
>> I use cAos-2 with several large IB clusters. When I was building the  
>> clusters, the open-IB stack was in a constant state of flux and the  
>> API was changing almost weekly (which made it very hard always  
>> playing catchup with open-mpi). As a result, I am using the Topspin  
>> commercial drivers, with a rebuilt RHEL-4 kernel and open-mpi built  
>> against their mvapi. It works great actually! :)
>>
>> Presently our cAos-2 kernel has 2 major patches to it. One is for  
>> suspend2, and the other is grsecurity. If you would like to work on a  
>> caos2/3 kernel that comes with ofed/openib there maybe some others  
>> that could help.
>>
>> BTW, are you going to also run Warewulf or Perceus on this cluster  
>> (for the node management)?
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Greg
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Rene Salmon wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>>
>>> I am new to caos and happen to run into the www site while looking for
>>> an RPM based linux distro.
>>>
>>> I am interested in using caos on an infiniband linux cluster.  More
>>> specifically the OpenIB stack or OFED-1.0
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried to or know if OFED-1.0 will compile and work with  
>>> caos?
>>> I know OFED will compile and work on 2.6.16 vanilla kernels but not  
>>> sure
>>> what the caos kernel looks like or if it has any patches that might
>>> cause problems.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help or info on this.
>>>
>>> Rene
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> -
>>> --
>>>          Rene Salmon
>>>          Tulane University
>>>          Center for Computational Science
>>>          http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
>>> 	rsalmon at tulane.edu
>>>          Tel 504-862-8393
>>> 	Tel 504-988-8552
>>>          Fax 504-862-8392
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cAos mailing list
>>> cAos at caosity.org
>>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>>>       
>> --
>> Greg Kurtzer
>> gmk at runlevelzero.net
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cAos mailing list
>> cAos at caosity.org
>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>>     
>
>   


From rsalmon at tulane.edu  Tue Sep  5 14:06:20 2006
From: rsalmon at tulane.edu (Rene Salmon)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:06:20 -0500
Subject: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?
In-Reply-To: <000a01c6d12a$4d4ea870$0d00a8c0@astevens>
References: <44FD97CF.6000406@tulane.edu><FB6578B6-0A08-481A-A7D0-10D57175D149@runlevelzero.net>	<44FDC94A.7050703@charter.net>
	<000a01c6d12a$4d4ea870$0d00a8c0@astevens>
Message-ID: <44FDE6CC.4020708@tulane.edu>

OFED/openib 1.0 supports vanilla kernel 2.6.16.x

OFED/openib 1.1-rc3  supports vanilla kernel 2.6.17.x
Here are the release note for ofed-1.1-rc3


Release details:
================
Build_id:
OFED-1.1-rc3

openib-1.1 (REV=9203)
# User space
https://openib.org/svn/gen2/branches/1.1/src/userspace
Git:
ref: refs/heads/ofed_1_1
commit 338e942a4ae10d62f2632e6292f85bb1b15d154c

# MPI
mpi_osu-0.9.7-mlx2.2.0.tgz
openmpi-1.1.1-1.src.rpm
mpitests-2.0-0.src.rpm


OS support:
===========
Novell:
     - SLES 9.0 SP3
     - SLES10
Redhat:
     - Redhat EL4 up3
     - Redhat EL4 up4
kernel.org:
     - Kernel 2.6.17

Note: Redhat EL4 up2, Fedora C4 and SuSE Pro 10 were dropped from the list.
We keep the backport patches for these OSes and make sure OFED compile and
loaded properly but will not do full QA cycle.

Systems:
========
     * x86_64
     * x86
     * ia64
     * ppc64



Rene




Arthur A. Stevens wrote:
> Were at 2.6.17.11 currently and plan to stay 'current' for the most part. By 
> enhancing the kernel with security patches, we have the ability to reboot 
> into new kernels less often.
> 
> I hope that answered that question :)
> 
> Arthur
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeffrey B. Layton" <laytonjb at charter.net>
> To: "Community Assembled OS" <caos at caosity.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [cAos] OpenIB OFED support?
> 
> 
>> What's the targeted vanilla kernel version for cAos-3?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>> I use cAos-2 with several large IB clusters. When I was building the
>>> clusters, the open-IB stack was in a constant state of flux and the
>>> API was changing almost weekly (which made it very hard always
>>> playing catchup with open-mpi). As a result, I am using the Topspin
>>> commercial drivers, with a rebuilt RHEL-4 kernel and open-mpi built
>>> against their mvapi. It works great actually! :)
>>>
>>> Presently our cAos-2 kernel has 2 major patches to it. One is for
>>> suspend2, and the other is grsecurity. If you would like to work on a
>>> caos2/3 kernel that comes with ofed/openib there maybe some others
>>> that could help.
>>>
>>> BTW, are you going to also run Warewulf or Perceus on this cluster
>>> (for the node management)?
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Rene Salmon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi list,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am new to caos and happen to run into the www site while looking for
>>>> an RPM based linux distro.
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in using caos on an infiniband linux cluster.  More
>>>> specifically the OpenIB stack or OFED-1.0
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone tried to or know if OFED-1.0 will compile and work with
>>>> caos?
>>>> I know OFED will compile and work on 2.6.16 vanilla kernels but not
>>>> sure
>>>> what the caos kernel looks like or if it has any patches that might
>>>> cause problems.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help or info on this.
>>>>
>>>> Rene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> -
>>>> --
>>>>          Rene Salmon
>>>>          Tulane University
>>>>          Center for Computational Science
>>>>          http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
>>>> rsalmon at tulane.edu
>>>>          Tel 504-862-8393
>>>> Tel 504-988-8552
>>>>          Fax 504-862-8392
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> cAos mailing list
>>>> cAos at caosity.org
>>>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Greg Kurtzer
>>> gmk at runlevelzero.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cAos mailing list
>>> cAos at caosity.org
>>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cAos mailing list
>> cAos at caosity.org
>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>>
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos

-- 
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--
         Rene Salmon
         Tulane University
         Center for Computational Science
         http://www.ccs.tulane.edu
	rsalmon at tulane.edu
         Tel 504-862-8393
	Tel 504-988-8552
         Fax 504-862-8392



From ben at caosity.org  Wed Sep  6 14:02:00 2006
From: ben at caosity.org (Ben)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:02:00 -0700
Subject: [cAos] Packages for Ports
Message-ID: <ca4725240609061402k367816acn15591f668a0b48bf@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I am going to be adding packages to the ports tree for caos-3 and was
wondering what sort of HPC packages people want or are looking to use with
caos. Please send me your suggestions so I can get to work adding and
testing them. Thanks!

Ben
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From rsalmon at tulane.edu  Fri Sep  8 10:27:33 2006
From: rsalmon at tulane.edu (Rene Salmon)
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:27:33 -0500
Subject: [cAos] caos pxe boot net install
Message-ID: <4501A805.6010705@tulane.edu>

Hi,

Just wanted to get some info on doing a pxeboot network install for 
caos-2.


- downloaded the caos-2-2.1a.x86_64.iso.
- copied the isolinux/initrd.img and isolinux/vmlinuz files to /tftboot 
from CD image
- did the appropriate dhcp and tftp magic to set things up.

-Booted the kernel and started the Cinch install program.
-Partitioned the drives Cinch step 1.

I get stuck on step 2 "Install the core file system"
Cinch tries to:

tar: /cdrom/corefs-x86_64.tar.gz: No such file or directory

There is no cdrom on this box just ethernet.  Is there a way to tell 
cinch to install via http ,ftp or NFS?

thanks
Rene




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From rsalmon at tulane.edu  Fri Sep  8 14:48:13 2006
From: rsalmon at tulane.edu (Rene Salmon)
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:48:13 -0500
Subject: [cAos] sidekick serial console install TERM problem
Message-ID: <4501E51D.60103@tulane.edu>


Hi,

Just installed caos-2 over a serial console.  The only problem was that 
side kick for some reason could not display itself correctly during the 
install.

All I saw was the bottom line:

Arrow keys to navigate, space/enter to select, 'd' when done, [ESC] to quit:


nothing else appeared.  I was using a regular vt100 term.  Is this a bug ?

Got out of sidekick finished the install and rebooted.  After editing 
grub, /etc/securetty, and /etc/inittab to add support for a serial 
console I was able to use sidekick no problem.

So the sidekick serial console problem is only during the install.

I really like sidekick and caos very neat stuff!!

Thanks
Rene



From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Fri Sep  8 15:23:43 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:23:43 -0700
Subject: [cAos] sidekick serial console install TERM problem
In-Reply-To: <4501E51D.60103@tulane.edu>
References: <4501E51D.60103@tulane.edu>
Message-ID: <9AC1D48F-376C-42C8-9A74-16568834334F@runlevelzero.net>

Glad you like! :)  If you set your TERM manually to something like  
vt100 (e.g. 'export TERM=vt100') I would think that the sidekick over  
serial should work out better.

What are you using your caos boxes for?

BTW, I am looking for alpha testers of cAos 3 Server for ia32 and  
x86_64. Interested parties should email me on or off list.

Thanks!

On Sep 8, 2006, at 2:48 PM, Rene Salmon wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Just installed caos-2 over a serial console.  The only problem was  
> that
> side kick for some reason could not display itself correctly during  
> the
> install.
>
> All I saw was the bottom line:
>
> Arrow keys to navigate, space/enter to select, 'd' when done, [ESC]  
> to quit:
>
>
> nothing else appeared.  I was using a regular vt100 term.  Is this  
> a bug ?
>
> Got out of sidekick finished the install and rebooted.  After editing
> grub, /etc/securetty, and /etc/inittab to add support for a serial
> console I was able to use sidekick no problem.
>
> So the sidekick serial console problem is only during the install.
>
> I really like sidekick and caos very neat stuff!!
>
> Thanks
> Rene
>
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From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Fri Sep  8 11:43:25 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:43:25 -0700
Subject: [cAos] caos pxe boot net install
In-Reply-To: <4501A805.6010705@tulane.edu>
References: <4501A805.6010705@tulane.edu>
Message-ID: <58BEA21B-3A9B-4410-8677-D1CADFCA38DF@runlevelzero.net>

Right now, the cinch installer doesn't know enough to grab the  
corefs* files from the network.

Of course it is possible to hammer in the support. ;)

Needed steps would be:

    Include network kernel modules (drivers and network stack)
    Build busybox with network client support (eg. wget, tftp, etc...)
    Modify the cinch install scripts to prompt if the corefs isn't local

Are you looking to do mass installs of caos, or install onto a system  
without a CDROM?



On Sep 8, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Rene Salmon wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just wanted to get some info on doing a pxeboot network install for
> caos-2.
>
>
> - downloaded the caos-2-2.1a.x86_64.iso.
> - copied the isolinux/initrd.img and isolinux/vmlinuz files to / 
> tftboot
> from CD image
> - did the appropriate dhcp and tftp magic to set things up.
>
> -Booted the kernel and started the Cinch install program.
> -Partitioned the drives Cinch step 1.
>
> I get stuck on step 2 "Install the core file system"
> Cinch tries to:
>
> tar: /cdrom/corefs-x86_64.tar.gz: No such file or directory
>
> There is no cdrom on this box just ethernet.  Is there a way to tell
> cinch to install via http ,ftp or NFS?
>
> thanks
> Rene
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> -
> --
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>          Center for Computational Science
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> 	rsalmon at tulane.edu
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> 	Tel 504-988-8552
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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Sat Sep  9 14:24:08 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:24:08 +0100
Subject: [cAos] Postfix plea!
In-Reply-To: <44F5E147.1040704@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <ce5e3a441c178178027ae0572a9f9536@www.py-soft.co.uk>
	<44F5E147.1040704@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <450330F8.1010204@py-soft.co.uk>

Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
> Unfortunately, 2.3.3-2.caos doesn't support TLS :-(

Pretty please?  If it ain't encrypted, I don't trust it...

Take care,

Ben


From mej at caosity.org  Sun Sep 10 09:36:49 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:36:49 -0400
Subject: [cAos] Postfix plea!
In-Reply-To: <450330F8.1010204@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <ce5e3a441c178178027ae0572a9f9536@www.py-soft.co.uk>
	<44F5E147.1040704@py-soft.co.uk> <450330F8.1010204@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060910163649.GR18668@kainx.org>

On Saturday, 09 September 2006, at 22:24:08 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Pretty please?  If it ain't encrypted, I don't trust it...

Patches and commits of fixes to CVS are welcome. :-)

Michael

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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Mon Sep 11 14:16:00 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:16:00 +0100
Subject: [cAos] Postfix plea!
In-Reply-To: <20060910163649.GR18668@kainx.org>
References: <ce5e3a441c178178027ae0572a9f9536@www.py-soft.co.uk>	<44F5E147.1040704@py-soft.co.uk>
	<450330F8.1010204@py-soft.co.uk> <20060910163649.GR18668@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <4505D210.3080707@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> Patches and commits of fixes to CVS are welcome. :-)

I sent you a patch to add TLS and SASLAUTH a while ago... :-(

Ben



From mej at caosity.org  Mon Sep 11 14:28:16 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:28:16 -0400
Subject: [cAos] Postfix plea!
In-Reply-To: <4505D210.3080707@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <ce5e3a441c178178027ae0572a9f9536@www.py-soft.co.uk>
	<44F5E147.1040704@py-soft.co.uk> <450330F8.1010204@py-soft.co.uk>
	<20060910163649.GR18668@kainx.org> <4505D210.3080707@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060911212816.GQ15604@kainx.org>

On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 22:16:00 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> I sent you a patch to add TLS and SASLAUTH a while ago... :-(

And according to you, it's not working.  So I'm going to need you to
look into it. :)

Michael

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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Tue Sep 12 05:17:36 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:17:36 +0100
Subject: [cAos] Postfix plea!
Message-ID: <03924a02b80f765745415e374a6677a4@www.py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings <mej at caosity.org> wrote: 
>And according to you, it's not working.  So I'm going to need you to
>look into it. :)

Good answer! :-)

I seem to recall it being very simple...  Once I've had change to co 
postfix I'll have a look.

Ben




From mej at caosity.org  Tue Sep 12 13:36:23 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:36:23 -0400
Subject: [cAos] Postfix plea!
In-Reply-To: <03924a02b80f765745415e374a6677a4@www.py-soft.co.uk>
References: <03924a02b80f765745415e374a6677a4@www.py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060912203623.GD3630@kainx.org>

On Tuesday, 12 September 2006, at 13:17:36 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Good answer! :-)

It's the only answer I can give at this point.  Everything I use seems
to work for me, so...  :)

> I seem to recall it being very simple...  Once I've had change to co
> postfix I'll have a look.

Cool, thanks. :)

Michael

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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Tue Sep 12 15:44:02 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:44:02 +0100
Subject: [cAos] Postfix plea!
In-Reply-To: <20060912203623.GD3630@kainx.org>
References: <03924a02b80f765745415e374a6677a4@www.py-soft.co.uk>
	<20060912203623.GD3630@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <45073832.2020806@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> Cool, thanks. :)

I'm no longer using cAos on my desktop machine so I haven't been able to
test this...

--- postfix.spec        2006-09-12 23:35:15.362693250 +0100
+++ postfix.spec        2006-09-12 23:41:24.477761500 +0100
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 %define MYSQL 1
 %define LDAP  1
 %define SASL  1
+%define TLS   1

 Summary: Postfix Mail Transport Agent
 Name: postfix
@@ -22,7 +23,7 @@
 Patch1002: postfix-2.2.10-conf_mods.patch
 License: IBM Public License -- see LICENSE for details
 #BuildSuggests: MySQL-devel
-BuildRequires: db4-devel openssl-devel mysql-devel openldap-devel
cyrus-sasl-devel
+BuildRequires: db4-devel openssl-devel mysql-devel openldap-devel
cyrus-sasl-devel openssl
 Provides: MTA smtpd smtpdaemon
 Conflicts: sendmail, exim
 BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root
@@ -89,6 +90,10 @@
 FLAGS="$FLAGS -DUSE_SASL_AUTH"
 LIBS="$LIBS -lsasl2"
 %endif
+if %{TLS:1}0
+FLAGS="$FLAGS -DUSE_TLS"
+LIBS="$LIBS -lssl -lcrypto"
+%endif
 make DEBUG="" OPT="$FLAGS" AUXLIBS="$LIBS"

 %install



From martyn at theendofhistether.org.uk  Wed Sep 13 11:59:28 2006
From: martyn at theendofhistether.org.uk (Martyn)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:59:28 +0100
Subject: [cAos] cAos on xbox
Message-ID: <45085510.9040209@theendofhistether.org.uk>

Yup, you read the subject correctly, not only is it possible, I've done it!

I currently have an Xbox sat downstairs running cAos 2!

I have written up a howto, and will gladly send it to anyone who 
requests it, but I'm holding fire on putting it in the wiki because of 
possible legal implications.  In the UK, you buy an xbox and you can do 
what you please with it, but in the US, the DMCA might interfere and 
make it illegal.

There's some things that I dislike about how I've shoehorned it in that 
I'll list here for input from others :

    * e2fsck - our version is earlier than the rev of mke2fs on the FC4
      install CD (a modified version I used to install cAos from) - does
      anyone know of a way of telling e2fsck to strip away options that
      it doesn't use and successfully check the partition?
    * because of the above, I've simply altered rc.sysinit to bypass the
      fsck step :(
    * using a modified FC4 kernel... is it possible for a kernelly
      person to see if we can get our SRM generating an xbox kernel?
      it's patches so really it would need a separate runthrough on the
      autobuilder.  It's not something I'm demanding, just saying would
      be nice.
    * a modified cinch with an xbox kernel would be really sweet :-)

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From martin.hardie at gmail.com  Thu Sep 14 03:13:26 2006
From: martin.hardie at gmail.com (martin hardie)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:13:26 +0200
Subject: [cAos] madwifi
Message-ID: <7ff9538b0609140313m103bbc67t1bac842babb9ba54@mail.gmail.com>

can someone give me some advise on what rpms i can install to get madwifi
going so i can use a SMC2536W-AG wifi card?

i have been trying fc3 and 4 rpms but that seems no use. If i cant use an
rpm how can i do it - you know me a little newbie still after all these
years .... too much law and philosophy and too little tech stuff

Aussieman

see below

aussieman anyone awake? if so can you tell me which of these drivers is best
for caos 2?
aussieman http://atrpms.net/dist/fc4/madwifi/
aussieman dries_, astevens ??? can you advise me which madwifi driver i
should get?
aussieman fc 3. fc4 or fc5?
aussieman wake up caos
aussieman im gonna try these
aussieman 59k
aussieman Aug 27 19:54:00 CEST 2006
aussieman madwifi-devel-0.9.2-28.fc4.at.i386.rpm  - madwifi kernel header
files
aussieman The madwifi kernel headers are used for accessing the kernel
modules' API. [more]
aussieman [binary rpm] 217k
aussieman Aug 27 19:54:00 CEST 2006 madwifi-0.9.2-28.fc4.at.i386.rpm  - A
linux device driver for Atheros chipsets (ar5210, ar5211, ar5212) This
package contains the Multiband Atheros Driver for WiFi, A linux device
driver for 802.11a/b/g universal ... [more]
aussieman hey wake up
aussieman rpm -i /home/ponki/madwifi-
hal-kmdl-2.6.12-2.3.legacy_FC3smp-0.9.2-28.fc3.at.x86_64.rpm
aussieman error: Failed dependencies:
aussieman         /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-2.3.legacy_FC3smp is needed by
madwifi-hal-kmdl-2.6.12-2.3.legacy_FC3smp-0.9.2-28.fc3.at.x86_64

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From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Thu Sep 14 08:51:58 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:51:58 -0700
Subject: [cAos] madwifi
In-Reply-To: <7ff9538b0609140313m103bbc67t1bac842babb9ba54@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff9538b0609140313m103bbc67t1bac842babb9ba54@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78BDEF37-6F39-4D4B-9A9B-32F5C0DF0CD1@runlevelzero.net>

I haven't used these in a while, but I used to just check it out of  
their CVS (now subversion I think), and build from there. You may  
need to "unset MODULEPATH" or one of the environment modules  
environment variables for the "make install" to put the modules into  
the kernel tree properly.

Good luck!
Greg

On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:13 AM, martin hardie wrote:

> can someone give me some advise on what rpms i can install to get  
> madwifi going so i can use a SMC2536W-AG wifi card?
>
> i have been trying fc3 and 4 rpms but that seems no use. If i cant  
> use an rpm how can i do it - you know me a little newbie still  
> after all these years .... too much law and philosophy and too  
> little tech stuff
>
> Aussieman
>
> see below
>
> aussieman anyone awake? if so can you tell me which of these  
> drivers is best for caos 2?
> aussieman http://atrpms.net/dist/fc4/madwifi/
> aussieman dries_, astevens ??? can you advise me which madwifi  
> driver i should get?
> aussieman fc 3. fc4 or fc5?
> aussieman wake up caos
> aussieman im gonna try these
> aussieman 59k
> aussieman Aug 27 19:54:00 CEST 2006
> aussieman madwifi-devel-0.9.2-28.fc4.at.i386.rpm  - madwifi kernel  
> header files
> aussieman The madwifi kernel headers are used for accessing the  
> kernel modules' API. [more]
> aussieman [binary rpm] 217k
> aussieman Aug 27 19:54:00 CEST 2006  
> madwifi-0.9.2-28.fc4.at.i386.rpm  - A linux device driver for  
> Atheros chipsets (ar5210, ar5211, ar5212) This package contains the  
> Multiband Atheros Driver for WiFi, A linux device driver for  
> 802.11a/b/g universal ... [more]
> aussieman hey wake up
> aussieman rpm -i /home/ponki/madwifi-hal- 
> kmdl-2.6.12-2.3.legacy_FC3smp-0.9.2-28.fc3.at.x86_64.rpm
> aussieman error: Failed dependencies:
> aussieman         /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-2.3.legacy_FC3smp is needed  
> by madwifi-hal-kmdl-2.6.12-2.3.legacy_FC3smp-0.9.2-28.fc3.at.x86_64
>
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From mej at caosity.org  Thu Sep 14 09:01:05 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:01:05 -0400
Subject: [cAos] madwifi
In-Reply-To: <7ff9538b0609140313m103bbc67t1bac842babb9ba54@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff9538b0609140313m103bbc67t1bac842babb9ba54@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060914160105.GC3630@kainx.org>

On Thursday, 14 September 2006, at 12:13:26 (+0200),
martin hardie wrote:

> can someone give me some advise on what rpms i can install to get
> madwifi going so i can use a SMC2536W-AG wifi card?

None of them.  Madwifi has kernel modules, and those need a specific
kernel.  You'll have to build from the SRPM against the caos kernel,
and I recommend using DAG, not ATRPMS.

Michael

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From mej at caosity.org  Thu Sep 14 09:15:05 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:15:05 -0400
Subject: [cAos] cAos on xbox
In-Reply-To: <45085510.9040209@theendofhistether.org.uk>
References: <45085510.9040209@theendofhistether.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20060914161504.GF3630@kainx.org>

On Wednesday, 13 September 2006, at 19:59:28 (+0100),
Martyn wrote:

> I have written up a howto, and will gladly send it to anyone who
> requests it, but I'm holding fire on putting it in the wiki because
> of possible legal implications.  In the UK, you buy an xbox and you
> can do what you please with it, but in the US, the DMCA might
> interfere and make it illegal.

If I understand correctly, and there is no license agreement or
anything XBox owners must agree to that prohibits them from installing
software on it, it's no different from installing Linux on any other
PC.  It would be just as legal to install Windows on your TiVo.

>    * e2fsck - our version is earlier than the rev of mke2fs on the FC4
>      install CD (a modified version I used to install cAos from) - does
>      anyone know of a way of telling e2fsck to strip away options that
>      it doesn't use and successfully check the partition?
>    * because of the above, I've simply altered rc.sysinit to bypass the
>      fsck step :(

Why not just edit the script to remove the options e2fsck doesn't
understand?

>    * using a modified FC4 kernel... is it possible for a kernelly
>      person to see if we can get our SRM generating an xbox kernel?
>      it's patches so really it would need a separate runthrough on the
>      autobuilder.  It's not something I'm demanding, just saying would
>      be nice.

I'm not sure we want to add "xbox" to our main kernel package, but a
linux-xbox module in CVS would certainly be welcome.

>    * a modified cinch with an xbox kernel would be really sweet :-)

cinch can be built with any kernel you choose, so this is entirely
doable.

Michael

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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Fri Sep 15 06:39:21 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:39:21 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
Message-ID: <450AAD09.8000605@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> Patch is in.  I put it in the php5 package; I don't see any reason why
> our default PHP shouldn't be hardened. :-)

>From the hardened PHP website:

"With the first public stable release of Suhosin the Hardening-Patch is
deprecated and only Suhosin should be used in new installations"

I had a quick look in the CVS with a view to replacing the hardening
patch with Suhosin but I couldn't find the former despite having updated
 my local copy of the CVS only a few days ago.

Ben


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Fri Sep 15 07:56:42 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:56:42 +0100
Subject: [cAos] Annoying quota problem.
Message-ID: <450ABF2A.7080706@py-soft.co.uk>


I recently deleted a user, and their files, from my system but they keep
appearing in my quota reports:

# /usr/sbin/repquota -tsa
*** Report for user quotas on device /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02
Block grace time: 7days; Inode grace time: 7days
                        Block limits                File limits
User            used    soft    hard  grace    used  soft  hard  grace
----------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
#504      --      12   18000   20000              3     0     0

I've even tried find / -uid 504 but that fails to find them.  Any ideas
where these three files are hiding? :-/

Ben


From mej at caosity.org  Fri Sep 15 11:00:22 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:00:22 -0400
Subject: [cAos] Annoying quota problem.
In-Reply-To: <450ABF2A.7080706@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <450ABF2A.7080706@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060915180022.GM1734@kainx.org>

On Friday, 15 September 2006, at 15:56:42 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> I recently deleted a user, and their files, from my system but they keep
> appearing in my quota reports:
> 
> # /usr/sbin/repquota -tsa
> *** Report for user quotas on device /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02
> Block grace time: 7days; Inode grace time: 7days
>                         Block limits                File limits
> User            used    soft    hard  grace    used  soft  hard  grace
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> [...]
> #504      --      12   18000   20000              3     0     0
> 
> I've even tried find / -uid 504 but that fails to find them.  Any ideas
> where these three files are hiding? :-/

Tried lsof?

Michael

-- 
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------
 "We both lie silently still in the dead of the night.  Although we
  both lie close together, we feel miles apart inside.  Was it
  something I said or something I did?  Did my words not come out
  right?"                        -- Poison, "Every Rose Has Its Thorn"


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Fri Sep 15 11:11:29 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:11:29 +0100
Subject: [cAos] Annoying quota problem.
In-Reply-To: <20060915180022.GM1734@kainx.org>
References: <450ABF2A.7080706@py-soft.co.uk> <20060915180022.GM1734@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <450AECD1.5030208@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> Tried lsof?

Just given it a go... and nothing for the deleted user! :-(

Ben


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Fri Sep 15 12:42:38 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:42:38 +0100
Subject: [cAos] Annoying quota problem.
In-Reply-To: <450ABF2A.7080706@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <450ABF2A.7080706@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <450B022E.7000006@py-soft.co.uk>

Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
> I've even tried find / -uid 504 but that fails to find them.  Any ideas
> where these three files are hiding? :-/

Problem solved by running quotacheck... d'oh! :)

Ben


From mej at caosity.org  Sat Sep 16 07:09:26 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:09:26 -0400
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <450AAD09.8000605@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <450AAD09.8000605@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060916140926.GD18668@kainx.org>

On Friday, 15 September 2006, at 14:39:21 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> "With the first public stable release of Suhosin the Hardening-Patch
> is deprecated and only Suhosin should be used in new installations"

There are no downloads of Suhosin available that are not beta.

http://www.hardened-php.net/suhosin/download.html

> I had a quick look in the CVS with a view to replacing the hardening
> patch with Suhosin but I couldn't find the former despite having
> updated my local copy of the CVS only a few days ago.

caos/groups/web/php5/P/hardening-patch-5.1.5-0.4.14.patch.gz

Michael

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-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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  and knowing when her husband gets home from work so you don't pass
  him coming up the driveway."                              -- Unknown


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Sat Sep 16 08:41:14 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 16:41:14 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060916140926.GD18668@kainx.org>
References: <450AAD09.8000605@py-soft.co.uk> <20060916140926.GD18668@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <450C1B1A.6080605@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> There are no downloads of Suhosin available that are not beta.

I noticed that but the author recommended replacing the hardening patch
with Suhosin.  Personally, I'm happy to stick with the hardening patch
for the moment.

> caos/groups/web/php5/P/hardening-patch-5.1.5-0.4.14.patch.gz

/slaps head... explains why I couldn't find it in caos/groups/web/php/
Next time I'll have a proper look rather than relying upon find.

Ben


From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Sat Sep 16 21:03:35 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 21:03:35 -0700
Subject: [cAos] caos2 repository update
Message-ID: <30960D38-5C12-42ED-98A6-84B54714AE43@runlevelzero.net>

current:
    + SRPMS/afick-2.6-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/awstats-6.4-3.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/bind-9.3.2-1.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/bluez-libs-2.14-4.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/bonnie++-1.03-2.a.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/caos-backgrounds-1.1-3.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/chora-2.0.1-3.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/clamav-0.88.4-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/clearlooks-big_pack-0.5.1-3.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/conserver-8.1.11-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/ctcs-1.3.0-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/ettercap-0.6.7-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/lirc-0.8.1-0.2.pre1.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/mailscanner-4.48.4-4.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/ntp-4.2.2p3-1.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/perl-Mail-Mbox-MessageParser-1.4003-1.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/xorg-x11-6.8.2-6.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/awstats-6.4-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/bind-9.3.1-1.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/bluez-libs-2.14-3.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/bonnie++-1.03-1.a.dag.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/caos-backgrounds-1.1-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/chora-2.0.1-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/clamav-0.88.3-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/clamav-0.88.4-1.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/clearlooks-big_pack-0.5.1-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/conserver-8.1.11-1.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/ettercap-0.6.7-1.mej.1.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/lirc-0.7.0-0.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/mailscanner-4.48.4-3.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/ntp-4.2.0-1.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/xorg-x11-6.8.2-5.caos.src.rpm

stable:
    + SRPMS/afick-2.6-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/awstats-6.4-3.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/bind-9.3.2-1.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/bluez-libs-2.14-4.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/bonnie++-1.03-2.a.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/caos-backgrounds-1.1-3.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/chora-2.0.1-3.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/clamav-0.88.4-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/clearlooks-big_pack-0.5.1-3.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/conserver-8.1.11-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/ctcs-1.3.0-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/ettercap-0.6.7-2.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/lirc-0.8.1-0.2.pre1.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/mailscanner-4.48.4-4.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/ntp-4.2.2p3-1.caos.src.rpm
    + SRPMS/xorg-x11-6.8.2-6.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/awstats-6.4-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/bind-9.3.1-1.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/bluez-libs-2.14-3.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/bonnie++-1.03-1.a.dag.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/caos-backgrounds-1.1-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/chora-2.0.1-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/clamav-0.88.3-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/clearlooks-big_pack-0.5.1-2.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/conserver-8.1.11-1.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/ettercap-0.6.7-1.mej.1.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/lirc-0.7.0-0.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/mailscanner-4.48.4-3.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/ntp-4.2.0-1.caos.src.rpm
    - SRPMS/xorg-x11-6.8.2-5.caos.src.rpm


--
Greg Kurtzer
gmk at runlevelzero.net





From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Sun Sep 17 08:47:40 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:47:40 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>

Greg M. Kurtzer wrote:
> To accommodate this, cAos-3 primary emphasis is performance, efficiency,
> services and security. Our targeted user-base is clustered systems and
> servers for ISP, home and office. Secondary emphasis will include other
> more general distribution aspects.

What are your thoughts on including the high performance ssh/scp patch
to OpenSSH?  See http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/  It
should dramatically increase the throughput of file transfers and would
definitely be welcome on my system.

Additionally, my match keyword patch for OpenSSH doesn't seem to have
made it through.  It increased system security on my system - please let
me know if you'd like me to make a patch for cAos-3.

Ben


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Sun Sep 17 09:28:54 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:28:54 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <450D77C6.9050203@py-soft.co.uk>

Greg M. Kurtzer wrote:
> The next generation of cAos is in development, here and now!

I recently modified the lastlog pam module so that it updates
/var/log/lastlog during the authentication phase.  This has the
advantage that you can monitor when users log in and remove any inactive
user accounts.

For example, on my system it all ties together with saslauth set to use
pam - which invokes my lastauth.  Postfix and cyrus-imap (pop,
imap,sieve etc) use saslauth for authentication and apache uses
mod-imap, which invokes cyrus etc.  So all systems ultimately use pam,
and hence lastauth, and I'm slowly picking off users who have not used
the system for more than 120 days.

Let me know if you're interested in something similar for cAos-3 and
I'll tidy it up - perhaps even a separate lastauth database and lastauth
utility.

Ben


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Sun Sep 17 10:15:16 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:15:16 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <450D82A4.3050003@py-soft.co.uk>


Quite a minor thing, but while I think about it...

I use a script to update the root servers for bind on a monthly basis -
let me know if you'd like me to package it up.

Ben


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Sun Sep 17 10:41:10 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:41:10 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <450D88B6.8080905@py-soft.co.uk>

Greg M. Kurtzer wrote:
> To accommodate this, cAos-3 primary emphasis is performance, efficiency,
> services and security. 

Would you like rootkit_hunter[1] packaged up at some point?  It doesn't
yet have definitions for cAos and it barfs on the colon in the release
name (see /etc/caos-release) but I'm sure we can get round these! :-)

Ben


[1] http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Sun Sep 17 10:51:15 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:51:15 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <44AD5CA6.6000201@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <ea86ce220607011059p69cf8a1es229ca9024a165ab6@mail.gmail.com>	<44A6EB3F.4020105@py-soft.co.uk>	<20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<449FC207.7080203@py-soft.co.uk>	<001001c69954$7c101850$6600a8c0@astevens>	<44A68EC4.2000602@py-soft.co.uk>	<20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<44A403FF.9040306@py-soft.co.uk>	<20060705203546.GF12917@kainx.org>	<44AC375D.1040609@py-soft.co.uk>	<20060706050321.GB15559@kainx.org>
	<44AD5CA6.6000201@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <450D8B13.9000001@py-soft.co.uk>

Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
> I working on it (for cAos-2), but I'm far from having a "decent" default
> config... in fact, they're both pretty cr at p at the moment and need a
> fair bit of fine tuning...  Sure I'll get there, eventually! :)

I don't think there's any such thing as a decent default install of
AIDE.  To be effective it needs to be finely tuned by the sysadmin and
its database placed on a readonly medium; I think it's best left as a
manual install.

As for snort - at the moment I don't like it as it takes up too much
processor time.

Ben


From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Sun Sep 17 19:53:16 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:53:16 -0700
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
	<450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <650F27C9-B63E-47DD-A471-579213B90CD6@runlevelzero.net>


On Sep 17, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Greg M. Kurtzer wrote:
>> To accommodate this, cAos-3 primary emphasis is performance,  
>> efficiency,
>> services and security. Our targeted user-base is clustered systems  
>> and
>> servers for ISP, home and office. Secondary emphasis will include  
>> other
>> more general distribution aspects.
>
> What are your thoughts on including the high performance ssh/scp patch
> to OpenSSH?  See http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/  It
> should dramatically increase the throughput of file transfers and  
> would
> definitely be welcome on my system.
>
> Additionally, my match keyword patch for OpenSSH doesn't seem to have
> made it through.  It increased system security on my system -  
> please let
> me know if you'd like me to make a patch for cAos-3.
>

Yes, can you please integrate the patch? Thanks!

Also, while you are hacking on the spec, can you also integrate the  
HPN patch? hehe

Right now the caos-3 (I will send an email about my thoughts on the  
name shortly) SCM tree is hosted on a private subversion repository.  
It will be uploaded to the primary CVS tree shortly. I will send out  
an email when that happens, but until then use the temporary  
subversion tree.

Thanks!

> Ben
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos

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From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Sun Sep 17 19:53:54 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:53:54 -0700
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <450D77C6.9050203@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
	<450D77C6.9050203@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <B8C5B300-B1FB-4C8F-A6D6-18888987366C@runlevelzero.net>


On Sep 17, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Greg M. Kurtzer wrote:
>> The next generation of cAos is in development, here and now!
>
> I recently modified the lastlog pam module so that it updates
> /var/log/lastlog during the authentication phase.  This has the
> advantage that you can monitor when users log in and remove any  
> inactive
> user accounts.
>
> For example, on my system it all ties together with saslauth set to  
> use
> pam - which invokes my lastauth.  Postfix and cyrus-imap (pop,
> imap,sieve etc) use saslauth for authentication and apache uses
> mod-imap, which invokes cyrus etc.  So all systems ultimately use pam,
> and hence lastauth, and I'm slowly picking off users who have not used
> the system for more than 120 days.
>
> Let me know if you're interested in something similar for cAos-3 and
> I'll tidy it up - perhaps even a separate lastauth database and  
> lastauth
> utility.

Interested for cAos-3! :)

>
> Ben
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos

--
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gmk at runlevelzero.net





From astevens at gravitypark.com  Sun Sep 17 20:10:36 2006
From: astevens at gravitypark.com (Arthur A. Stevens)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:10:36 -0700
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net><450D77C6.9050203@py-soft.co.uk>
	<B8C5B300-B1FB-4C8F-A6D6-18888987366C@runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <00e601c6dad0$05abb670$0d00a8c0@astevens>

Looks like Ben just volunteered for all kinds of projects ;)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Kurtzer" <gmk at runlevelzero.net>
To: "Community Assembled OS" <caos at caosity.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [cAos] caos3 development


> 
> On Sep 17, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
> 
>> Greg M. Kurtzer wrote:
>>> The next generation of cAos is in development, here and now!
>>
>> I recently modified the lastlog pam module so that it updates
>> /var/log/lastlog during the authentication phase.  This has the
>> advantage that you can monitor when users log in and remove any  
>> inactive
>> user accounts.
>>
>> For example, on my system it all ties together with saslauth set to  
>> use
>> pam - which invokes my lastauth.  Postfix and cyrus-imap (pop,
>> imap,sieve etc) use saslauth for authentication and apache uses
>> mod-imap, which invokes cyrus etc.  So all systems ultimately use pam,
>> and hence lastauth, and I'm slowly picking off users who have not used
>> the system for more than 120 days.
>>
>> Let me know if you're interested in something similar for cAos-3 and
>> I'll tidy it up - perhaps even a separate lastauth database and  
>> lastauth
>> utility.
> 
> Interested for cAos-3! :)
> 
>>
>> Ben
>> _______________________________________________
>> cAos mailing list
>> cAos at caosity.org
>> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
> 
> --
> Greg Kurtzer
> gmk at runlevelzero.net
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos
>



From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Sun Sep 17 20:11:33 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:11:33 -0700
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <450D88B6.8080905@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
	<450D88B6.8080905@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <A6350C72-3A52-42CA-B83E-BF287D4F2B4D@runlevelzero.net>

The short answer, yes. The long answer, not quite ready for it yet. I  
want to keep the core separate from the applications and add-ons.  
Still debating the best way to do that and considering a separate  
"extras" repository that would sit ontop of the "foundation".



On Sep 17, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Greg M. Kurtzer wrote:
>> To accommodate this, cAos-3 primary emphasis is performance,  
>> efficiency,
>> services and security.
>
> Would you like rootkit_hunter[1] packaged up at some point?  It  
> doesn't
> yet have definitions for cAos and it barfs on the colon in the release
> name (see /etc/caos-release) but I'm sure we can get round these! :-)
>
> Ben
>
>
> [1] http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos

--
Greg Kurtzer
gmk at runlevelzero.net





From mej at caosity.org  Sun Sep 17 20:13:13 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:13:13 -0400
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <A6350C72-3A52-42CA-B83E-BF287D4F2B4D@runlevelzero.net>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
	<450D88B6.8080905@py-soft.co.uk>
	<A6350C72-3A52-42CA-B83E-BF287D4F2B4D@runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <20060918031313.GD22369@kainx.org>

On Sunday, 17 September 2006, at 20:11:33 (-0700),
Greg Kurtzer wrote:

> The short answer, yes. The long answer, not quite ready for it
> yet. I want to keep the core separate from the applications and
> add-ons.  Still debating the best way to do that and considering a
> separate "extras" repository that would sit ontop of the
> "foundation".

Well, that, and the fact that I already packaged it ages ago.

Michael

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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Mon Sep 18 02:53:58 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:53:58 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060918031313.GD22369@kainx.org>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D88B6.8080905@py-soft.co.uk>	<A6350C72-3A52-42CA-B83E-BF287D4F2B4D@runlevelzero.net>
	<20060918031313.GD22369@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <450E6CB6.4080809@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> Well, that, and the fact that I already packaged it ages ago.

Oh yes! :-)  Sorry, didn't spot that...

Did you manage to persuade it to recognise cAos?  At the moment I've
symlinked /etc/caos-release to /etc/redhat-release and removed the
colon.  I'm hoping that you've found a better solution and I can cross
it off my to-do list! :)

Ben


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Mon Sep 18 03:44:42 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:44:42 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060918031313.GD22369@kainx.org>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D88B6.8080905@py-soft.co.uk>	<A6350C72-3A52-42CA-B83E-BF287D4F2B4D@runlevelzero.net>
	<20060918031313.GD22369@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <450E789A.6000908@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> Well, that, and the fact that I already packaged it ages ago.

Here's my patch for detecting cAos, which I've just submitted to rkhunter.

Using hashupd[1] with a release string of "cAos Community Linux release
2.0 (Lorien) 2005.10.13 (i386)", it now works perfectly on my server
without any nasty hacks! :-)

Ben
[1] http://www.rootshell.be/~unspawn/hashupd-1.12.sh.gz

--- rkhunter    2006-09-18 11:10:47.000000000 +0100
+++ rkhunter    2006-09-18 11:31:09.000000000 +0100
@@ -2018,6 +2018,27 @@
            debugdate >> ${DEBUGFILE}
            logtext "Info: Found /etc/gentoo-release"
        fi
+
+        # cAos?
+        if [ -e "/etc/caos-release" ]
+          then
+            full_osname=`cat /etc/caos-release`
+            # Strip any colons
+            full_osname=`echo ${full_osname//:/}`
+            valid_os="1"
+            logtext "Info: Found /etc/caos-release"
+            uname_model=`uname -m`
+              case $uname_model in
+                i[0-9]86) architecture=i386; ;;
+                x86_64)   architecture=x86_64; ;;
+              esac
+            logtext "Architecture ${uname_model} (->${architecture})"
+            full_osname="${full_osname} (${architecture})"
+            USE_PATCHED_SOFTWARE=1
+        fi
+
+
+
     fi



From mej at caosity.org  Mon Sep 18 15:43:33 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:43:33 -0400
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
	<450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060918224333.GA22369@kainx.org>

On Sunday, 17 September 2006, at 16:47:40 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> What are your thoughts on including the high performance ssh/scp
> patch to OpenSSH?  See
> http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/ It should
> dramatically increase the throughput of file transfers and would
> definitely be welcome on my system.
> 
> Additionally, my match keyword patch for OpenSSH doesn't seem to
> have made it through.  It increased system security on my system -

There were security fixes that needed to be pushed into "current" and
"stable" before putting a new openssh package into testing.  Now that
all that has been done, we can test both these patches.

If you can mail both patches to the list, I'll get them in right away.

Michael

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From mej at caosity.org  Mon Sep 18 15:44:39 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:44:39 -0400
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <450D82A4.3050003@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
	<450D82A4.3050003@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060918224438.GB22369@kainx.org>

On Sunday, 17 September 2006, at 18:15:16 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Quite a minor thing, but while I think about it...
> 
> I use a script to update the root servers for bind on a monthly
> basis - let me know if you'd like me to package it up.

Would it be something that could go in the bind server package?
perhaps as a monthly cron job?

Michael

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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Mon Sep 18 15:47:03 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:47:03 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060918224333.GA22369@kainx.org>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>
	<20060918224333.GA22369@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <450F21E7.6080707@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> If you can mail both patches to the list, I'll get them in right away.

I should have time either tomorrow or Wednesday afternoon.

Take care,

Ben


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Mon Sep 18 15:48:05 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:48:05 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060918224438.GB22369@kainx.org>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D82A4.3050003@py-soft.co.uk>
	<20060918224438.GB22369@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <450F2225.8000709@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> Would it be something that could go in the bind server package?
> perhaps as a monthly cron job?

Good idea! :-)  What's best for you?  Should I just email you the script?

Ben


From mej at caosity.org  Mon Sep 18 20:00:35 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:00:35 -0400
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <450F2225.8000709@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
	<450D82A4.3050003@py-soft.co.uk> <20060918224438.GB22369@kainx.org>
	<450F2225.8000709@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060919030034.GF4415@kainx.org>

On Monday, 18 September 2006, at 23:48:05 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Good idea! :-)  What's best for you?  Should I just email you the script?

Send to the list.  That way, if I get hit by a bus, someone else can
do it. :)

Michael

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From mej at caosity.org  Mon Sep 18 20:24:57 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:24:57 -0400
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <450E789A.6000908@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
	<450D88B6.8080905@py-soft.co.uk>
	<A6350C72-3A52-42CA-B83E-BF287D4F2B4D@runlevelzero.net>
	<20060918031313.GD22369@kainx.org> <450E789A.6000908@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060919032457.GG4415@kainx.org>

On Monday, 18 September 2006, at 11:44:42 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Here's my patch for detecting cAos, which I've just submitted to rkhunter.

Mine is in caos/groups/security/rkhunter/P/rkhunter-1.2.8-detect_caos.patch
for reference.

Michael

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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Tue Sep 19 15:07:59 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:07:59 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060919030034.GF4415@kainx.org>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D82A4.3050003@py-soft.co.uk>
	<20060918224438.GB22369@kainx.org>	<450F2225.8000709@py-soft.co.uk>
	<20060919030034.GF4415@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <45106A3F.9070600@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> Send to the list.  That way, if I get hit by a bus, someone else can
> do it. :)

Here's the bind_update script I use on my system in a monthly cron job.

Improvements that are needed: random delay on start up and change pinged
server to something other news.bbc.co.uk! :-)

I'm off to fall into bed...  I've got to get up at 4am! Gulp :-(

Ben
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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Wed Sep 20 07:33:05 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:33:05 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <20060919032457.GG4415@kainx.org>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D88B6.8080905@py-soft.co.uk>	<A6350C72-3A52-42CA-B83E-BF287D4F2B4D@runlevelzero.net>	<20060918031313.GD22369@kainx.org>
	<450E789A.6000908@py-soft.co.uk> <20060919032457.GG4415@kainx.org>
Message-ID: <45115121.6060802@py-soft.co.uk>

Michael Jennings wrote:
> Mine is in caos/groups/security/rkhunter/P/rkhunter-1.2.8-detect_caos.patch
> for reference.

Hopefully cAos should be fully supported in v1.2.9! :-)

Ben


From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Wed Sep 20 10:12:15 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:12:15 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <650F27C9-B63E-47DD-A471-579213B90CD6@runlevelzero.net>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>
	<650F27C9-B63E-47DD-A471-579213B90CD6@runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <4511766F.1070609@py-soft.co.uk>

Greg Kurtzer wrote:
[Match and HPN patches]
> Yes, can you please integrate the patch? Thanks!

Damned incompatible patches!!!  Looks like I'll have to apply one by hand...

It's gonna take longer than I thought :-(

Ben


From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Thu Sep 21 22:43:41 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:43:41 -0700
Subject: [cAos] Caos Server 3 is in BETA!
Message-ID: <1BAC0D6D-F030-4AB9-8FB3-EC3C1A4FE75A@runlevelzero.net>

Please check the news headlines at http://www.caoslinux.org/. You  
will find that Caos Sever 3 has been released in BETA form and is  
available in i386 and x86_64 builds (links to the ISO images can be  
found in the news bulletin).

Now is the time for people that offered to help maintain packages in  
the caos ports tree to become familiar with the system as well as  
testers and documenters to start their hacking.

Thanks.
--
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gmk at runlevelzero.net





From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Fri Sep 22 13:40:46 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:40:46 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <4511766F.1070609@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>
	<650F27C9-B63E-47DD-A471-579213B90CD6@runlevelzero.net>
	<4511766F.1070609@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <45144A4E.5030407@py-soft.co.uk>

Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
> [Match and HPN patches]
> Damned incompatible patches!!!  Looks like I'll have to apply one by hand...

Apparently OpenSSH v4.4 is due to be released "very soon" and that
includes the Match keyword patch.  Are you likely to include it in
cAos-3 or will you be sticking with 4.3p2?

If the former, I'll wait for the new release before applying HPN.

Ben


From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Fri Sep 22 15:08:46 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:08:46 -0700
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <45144A4E.5030407@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>
	<650F27C9-B63E-47DD-A471-579213B90CD6@runlevelzero.net>
	<4511766F.1070609@py-soft.co.uk> <45144A4E.5030407@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <17C3B616-3D1F-4BDC-8BFA-0C594FE45F7F@runlevelzero.net>

It will be updated in caos3 shortly after its release, and public  
after testing. :)

Thanks!

On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
>> [Match and HPN patches]
>> Damned incompatible patches!!!  Looks like I'll have to apply one  
>> by hand...
>
> Apparently OpenSSH v4.4 is due to be released "very soon" and that
> includes the Match keyword patch.  Are you likely to include it in
> cAos-3 or will you be sticking with 4.3p2?
>
> If the former, I'll wait for the new release before applying HPN.
>
> Ben
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos

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From dareas0 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 23 12:34:28 2006
From: dareas0 at gmail.com (REASOR)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:34:28 -0400
Subject: [cAos] LAN (Realtek) Drivers
Message-ID: <9360993f0609231234k35d13df3r7cebdfb6b3351d2e@mail.gmail.com>

Setting up a Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2 Mobo with Intel Core 2 Duo e6400 System
with cAos 2-2.1ax86_64
Cannot recognize network, Network/LAN Chip Realtek RTL8111B .
Is it possible to load an external driver?  When should I load this driver?
(During Install?)


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From benjamin at py-soft.co.uk  Sun Sep 24 06:41:35 2006
From: benjamin at py-soft.co.uk (Benjamin Donnachie)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:41:35 +0100
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <17C3B616-3D1F-4BDC-8BFA-0C594FE45F7F@runlevelzero.net>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>	<450D6E1C.6070004@py-soft.co.uk>	<650F27C9-B63E-47DD-A471-579213B90CD6@runlevelzero.net>	<4511766F.1070609@py-soft.co.uk>
	<45144A4E.5030407@py-soft.co.uk>
	<17C3B616-3D1F-4BDC-8BFA-0C594FE45F7F@runlevelzero.net>
Message-ID: <45168B0F.3040503@py-soft.co.uk>

Greg Kurtzer wrote:
> It will be updated in caos3 shortly after its release, and public  
> after testing. :)

In that case, I'll give it two weeks or so for v4.4 to be released
before I look in to applying the patches by hand.

Ben


From mej at caosity.org  Wed Sep 27 20:42:11 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:42:11 -0400
Subject: [cAos] caos3 development
In-Reply-To: <45106A3F.9070600@py-soft.co.uk>
References: <20060604050900.GB14645@aries.runlevelzero.net>
	<450D82A4.3050003@py-soft.co.uk> <20060918224438.GB22369@kainx.org>
	<450F2225.8000709@py-soft.co.uk> <20060919030034.GF4415@kainx.org>
	<45106A3F.9070600@py-soft.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060928034211.GA11403@kainx.org>

On Tuesday, 19 September 2006, at 23:07:59 (+0100),
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Here's the bind_update script I use on my system in a monthly cron
> job.

It's in bind-9.3.2-3.caos.

Michael

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From slaton at berkeley.edu  Thu Sep 28 21:00:26 2006
From: slaton at berkeley.edu (slaton)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:00:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [cAos] LAN (Realtek) Drivers
In-Reply-To: <9360993f0609231234k35d13df3r7cebdfb6b3351d2e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9360993f0609231234k35d13df3r7cebdfb6b3351d2e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609282053350.13119@toro.berkeley.edu>

I'm having a similar problem. Trying to install caos2 on a Dell Dimension 
9150 box which has intel gbit ethernet (e1000), but cinch doesn't 
recognize the network.

Maybe this box has a newer version of the intel chipset (Intel 945P 
Express) that the version of e1000 w/ the caos2 installer doesn't know 
about.

I can try downloading and building a newer e1000 driver ver. but how do i 
tell cinch to use an external driver?

thanks
slaton

Slaton Lipscomb
Nogales Lab, Howard Hughes Medical Institute
http://cryoem.berkeley.edu

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, REASOR wrote:

> Setting up a Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2 Mobo with Intel Core 2 Duo e6400 
> System with cAos 2-2.1ax86_64
> Cannot recognize network, Network/LAN Chip Realtek RTL8111B .
> Is it possible to load an external driver?  When should I load this 
> driver? (During Install?)
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Daniel A. Reasor Jr.


From gmk at runlevelzero.net  Fri Sep 29 08:13:44 2006
From: gmk at runlevelzero.net (Greg Kurtzer)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:13:44 -0700
Subject: [cAos] LAN (Realtek) Drivers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609282053350.13119@toro.berkeley.edu>
References: <9360993f0609231234k35d13df3r7cebdfb6b3351d2e@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0609282053350.13119@toro.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <76A9034D-98C5-4021-94B4-A81C1B614D53@runlevelzero.net>

Cinch uses "detect" which is the same hardware recognition program in  
caos. Detect scans the pci bus and matches up the VendorID and  
ModelID of each card with the kernel pci table which maps the card to  
a specific kernel module/driver. So if Cinch doesn't support the card  
it is either that the kernel wasn't built with the support of that  
hardware, or that the kernel is older then the hardware.

Michael: Didn't you make a new updated ISO for caos2 recently? Can  
you post your isos?


On Sep 28, 2006, at 9:00 PM, slaton wrote:

> I'm having a similar problem. Trying to install caos2 on a Dell  
> Dimension
> 9150 box which has intel gbit ethernet (e1000), but cinch doesn't
> recognize the network.
>
> Maybe this box has a newer version of the intel chipset (Intel 945P
> Express) that the version of e1000 w/ the caos2 installer doesn't know
> about.
>
> I can try downloading and building a newer e1000 driver ver. but  
> how do i
> tell cinch to use an external driver?
>
> thanks
> slaton
>
> Slaton Lipscomb
> Nogales Lab, Howard Hughes Medical Institute
> http://cryoem.berkeley.edu
>
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, REASOR wrote:
>
>> Setting up a Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2 Mobo with Intel Core 2 Duo e6400
>> System with cAos 2-2.1ax86_64
>> Cannot recognize network, Network/LAN Chip Realtek RTL8111B .
>> Is it possible to load an external driver?  When should I load this
>> driver? (During Install?)
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>>
>> Daniel A. Reasor Jr.
> _______________________________________________
> cAos mailing list
> cAos at caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos

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From mej at caosity.org  Fri Sep 29 11:32:12 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:32:12 -0400
Subject: [cAos] LAN (Realtek) Drivers
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On Friday, 29 September 2006, at 08:13:44 (-0700),
Greg Kurtzer wrote:

> Cinch uses "detect" which is the same hardware recognition program
> in caos. Detect scans the pci bus and matches up the VendorID and
> ModelID of each card with the kernel pci table which maps the card
> to a specific kernel module/driver. So if Cinch doesn't support the
> card it is either that the kernel wasn't built with the support of
> that hardware, or that the kernel is older then the hardware.

How would cinch/detect react if a third-party kernel module were
loaded and detect were run again?  Assuming the module worked with our
kernel, obviously...

> Michael: Didn't you make a new updated ISO for caos2 recently? Can
> you post your isos?

Sure.  What I have is based on the -101 kernel, IIRC.  Should I spin a
new one with the latest kernel for security updates, or is the one
from back then (mid-August) okay?

Michael

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From slaton at berkeley.edu  Fri Sep 29 14:26:49 2006
From: slaton at berkeley.edu (slaton)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:26:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [cAos] LAN (Realtek) Drivers
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Thanks guys. I'll take anything at this point....no problem to use one a 
month-old and then just yum update everything...

thanks
slaton

Slaton Lipscomb
Nogales Lab, Howard Hughes Medical Institute
http://cryoem.berkeley.edu

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Michael Jennings wrote:

> On Friday, 29 September 2006, at 08:13:44 (-0700),
> Greg Kurtzer wrote:
> 
> > Cinch uses "detect" which is the same hardware recognition program in 
> > caos. Detect scans the pci bus and matches up the VendorID and ModelID 
> > of each card with the kernel pci table which maps the card to a 
> > specific kernel module/driver. So if Cinch doesn't support the card it 
> > is either that the kernel wasn't built with the support of that 
> > hardware, or that the kernel is older then the hardware.
> 
> How would cinch/detect react if a third-party kernel module were loaded 
> and detect were run again?  Assuming the module worked with our kernel, 
> obviously...
> 
> > Michael: Didn't you make a new updated ISO for caos2 recently? Can you 
> > post your isos?
> 
> Sure.  What I have is based on the -101 kernel, IIRC.  Should I spin a 
> new one with the latest kernel for security updates, or is the one from 
> back then (mid-August) okay?
> 
> Michael


From mej at caosity.org  Fri Sep 29 20:27:21 2006
From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:27:21 -0400
Subject: [cAos] LAN (Realtek) Drivers
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On Friday, 29 September 2006, at 14:26:49 (-0700),
slaton wrote:

> Thanks guys. I'll take anything at this point....no problem to use
> one a month-old and then just yum update everything...

http://mirror.caosity.org/cAos-2/install/caos-2-2.2a.i386.iso

WARNING:  This ISO is relatively untested; I think I've done a grand
total of 1 install with it.  Please don't use it for anything
super-critical right off the bat.  Try with qemu or a server with no
data first, and let me know if there are any problems.

Good luck!
Michael

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