From tmattox at gmail.com Mon Nov 1 02:29:38 2004 From: tmattox at gmail.com (Tim Mattox) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 05:29:38 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Centos-3 x64 install hangs In-Reply-To: <1098051280.11794.575.camel@rh-possum.localdomain> References: <1098051280.11794.575.camel@rh-possum.localdomain> Message-ID: Hello Gillian, I have found that sometimes you can work around the problem you describe with the use of a combination of kernel commandline options. What motherboard and BIOS version are you using? I recall having a similar problem with the Tyan Tomcat K8S S2850 motherboard with BIOS version 1.07 or older with Opteron 146 CPUs. To get those machines to work with the CentOS kernel (as well as a SUSE kernel), I had to add these two options "noapic iommu=off". Also, a newer BIOS seems to have resolved the APIC problem. So, I'd suggest you check if there is an updated BIOS available for your motherboard, as well as try adding those options (try various combinations too) when grub prompts you for which kernel to load. Good luck. On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:14:41 +1000, gillian wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for this great facility. I have been using opensource for a lot > of years and am very glad to find this distro which embodies the > philosophy of the opensource community. I have tried joining the mailing > list and the forum, but so far no confirmation email. I have not yet > recieved notification that I can join the mailing list or the forum even > though I applied almost 12hrs ago. Thus I am writing this email to you > guys. > > I have just downloaded the centos-3 x64 isos and am attempting to > install. Unfortunately the install hangs just past the initial spash > menu - ie it comes up with > loading vmlinuz..................... > loading initrd.img............................... > Ready > . > Decompressing Linux...done. > Booting the kernel. > > then just stops. > > The 32bit version installed, but this is a 64bit machine so I would like > to try the 64bit one. > > Thanks, Gillian > _______________________________________________ > cAos mailing list > cAos at caosity.org > http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos > -- Tim Mattox - tmattox at gmail.com - http://homepage.mac.com/tmattox/ From gillian.bennett at celentia.com Mon Nov 1 04:24:02 2004 From: gillian.bennett at celentia.com (gillian) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 22:24:02 +1000 Subject: [cAos] Centos-3 x64 install hangs In-Reply-To: References: <1098051280.11794.575.camel@rh-possum.localdomain> Message-ID: <1099311841.21787.3064.camel@rh-possum.localdomain> Hi tim thanks so much for your reply. I found that if I disabled USB and APCI in BIOS the install progressed without error. Stange ay. I tried a whole lot of combos in kernal command line parameters during the install, but the BIOS change was the only thing that worked. Have been on centos-3 for over a week now ;) Take care, Gillian On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 20:29, Tim Mattox wrote: > Hello Gillian, > I have found that sometimes you can work around > the problem you describe with the use of a combination > of kernel commandline options. > > What motherboard and BIOS version are you using? > I recall having a similar problem with the Tyan Tomcat K8S > S2850 motherboard with BIOS version 1.07 or older > with Opteron 146 CPUs. > > To get those machines to work with the CentOS kernel > (as well as a SUSE kernel), I had to add these two > options "noapic iommu=off". > Also, a newer BIOS seems to have resolved > the APIC problem. > > So, I'd suggest you check if there is an updated BIOS > available for your motherboard, as well as try adding those > options (try various combinations too) when grub prompts > you for which kernel to load. > > Good luck. > > On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:14:41 +1000, gillian > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for this great facility. I have been using opensource for a lot > > of years and am very glad to find this distro which embodies the > > philosophy of the opensource community. I have tried joining the mailing > > list and the forum, but so far no confirmation email. I have not yet > > recieved notification that I can join the mailing list or the forum even > > though I applied almost 12hrs ago. Thus I am writing this email to you > > guys. > > > > I have just downloaded the centos-3 x64 isos and am attempting to > > install. Unfortunately the install hangs just past the initial spash > > menu - ie it comes up with > > loading vmlinuz..................... > > loading initrd.img............................... > > Ready > > . > > Decompressing Linux...done. > > Booting the kernel. > > > > then just stops. > > > > The 32bit version installed, but this is a 64bit machine so I would like > > to try the 64bit one. > > > > Thanks, Gillian > > _______________________________________________ > > cAos mailing list > > cAos at caosity.org > > http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos > > > From charlieb-caos at budge.apana.org.au Mon Nov 1 08:38:29 2004 From: charlieb-caos at budge.apana.org.au (Charlie Brady) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:38:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cAos] should cAos block access to mirror.caosity.org? In-Reply-To: <4185844F.9040809@it.swin.edu.au> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, John Newbigin wrote: > Is it possible to feed yum an HTTP redirect? The default yum server > could attempt to locate a mirror which is geographically close to the > client and redirect yum to that server. Ideally that would be "topologically close". But "geographically close" would be a first approximation. --- Charlie From ssrat at mailbag.com Mon Nov 1 11:52:03 2004 From: ssrat at mailbag.com (David Douthitt) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:52:03 -0600 Subject: [cAos] should cAos block access to mirror.caosity.org? In-Reply-To: <20041030120001.17774.61253.Mailman@caos1.caosity.org> References: <20041030120001.17774.61253.Mailman@caos1.caosity.org> Message-ID: <418693E3.2070403@mailbag.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 caos-request at caosity.org wrote: | Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:46:53 -0700 (PDT) | From: Rick Graves | To: caos at caosity.org, centos at caosity.org, caos-mirror at caosity.org | Subject: [cAos] should cAos block access to mirror.caosity.org? | Reply-To: caos at caosity.org | | Hey, | | Greg suggested that I take a straw poll. | | Should cAos take steps to prevent getting stuck with a | big ISP bill in the future? | | For example, should cAos: | | a) for new installs, have the yum.conf point to public | mirrors, rather than to mirror.caosity.org? Sounds like a good idea to me. However, put mirror.caosity.org in the list but commented out - with a note. | b) make sure that "yum update" does not substitute a | new yum.conf file that points only to | mirror.caosity.org? That would be outside of the scope of the yum program, wouldn't it? Unless you mean to make sure that yum.conf does not contain mirror.caosity.org normally. | c) allow public mirrors to access mirror.caosity.org | directly, but block direct access by everyone else? That might be too drastic, but other measures can essentially lead to this. Could you make mirror.caosity.org resolve to various mirrors the way that ftp.freebsd.org seems to? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBhpPigd4eE7zVXo0RAh/kAJ9REC6HJOgWO9fK4TCUyDSrV6KeVQCgt1wA xyc6zhw2c3Zv+f+pZdLbid8= =D6Qg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From charlieb-caos at budge.apana.org.au Mon Nov 1 17:03:29 2004 From: charlieb-caos at budge.apana.org.au (Charlie Brady) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 20:03:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cAos] 2.6 kernel In-Reply-To: <20041025214448.GB24296@titan.runlevelzero.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Greg M. Kurtzer wrote: > If so, I would recommend migrating your box to caos2 when it is released. > There are more things to update then just the kernel to get a fully functional > 2.6 implementation. > > We have one or two more changes to the core that we have to bring in, and then > some more testing,... once that has been done, we should be able to make an > alpha release. In the mean time, if you wish to test, you can grab the latest > cinch at: > > http://mirror.caosity.org/cAos-2/install/cinch*.iso > > And install caos2. Is this working for anybody? I've found various problems, including bootloader not being installed. I don't see anything in bugzilla ATM. Want some? Is the current source available anywhere? --- Charlie From greg at runlevelzero.net Mon Nov 1 20:31:12 2004 From: greg at runlevelzero.net (Greg M. Kurtzer) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 20:31:12 -0800 Subject: [cAos] 2.6 kernel In-Reply-To: References: <20041025214448.GB24296@titan.runlevelzero.net> Message-ID: <20041102043112.GB28113@titan.runlevelzero.net> On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 08:03:29PM -0500, Charlie Brady wrote: > Is this working for anybody? I've found various problems, including > bootloader not being installed. I don't see anything in bugzilla ATM. Want > some? hehe... it works for me. ;) Can you elaborate on some of the issues, or in the bugzilla post? Remember also, that VT3 ([alt]-[F3]) shows errors. > Is the current source available anywhere? It is available in CVS. Please see: http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/caos/2004-June/001589.html (mzget -D :pserver:anoncvs at anoncvs.caosity.org:/var/cvs caos/cinch) -- Greg M. Kurtzer http://runlevelzero.net/ http://caosity.org/ http://warewulf-cluster.org/ From charlieb-caos at budge.apana.org.au Tue Nov 2 06:32:30 2004 From: charlieb-caos at budge.apana.org.au (Charlie Brady) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:32:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cAos] 2.6 kernel In-Reply-To: <20041102043112.GB28113@titan.runlevelzero.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Greg M. Kurtzer wrote: > On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 08:03:29PM -0500, Charlie Brady wrote: > > Is this working for anybody? I've found various problems, including > > bootloader not being installed. I don't see anything in bugzilla ATM. Want > > some? > > hehe... it works for me. ;) > > Can you elaborate on some of the issues, or in the bugzilla post? Of course. > Remember also, that VT3 ([alt]-[F3]) shows errors. Yep. Segfaults reported there. > > Is the current source available anywhere? > > It is available in CVS. Please see: > > http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/caos/2004-June/001589.html Thanks. Note that http://caosity.org/projects/cinch refers to documentation at /cAos-2/docs/install which doesn't appear to exist. --- Charlie From landman at scalableinformatics.com Tue Nov 2 06:41:41 2004 From: landman at scalableinformatics.com (Joe Landman) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:41:41 -0500 Subject: [cAos] curious about x86_64 support on caos/cinch Message-ID: <41879CA5.9010006@scalableinformatics.com> Folks: Last time I asked about x86_64 support, I was pointed over to Tao. Does caos yet support 64-bit linux on x86_64? Joe From greg at runlevelzero.net Tue Nov 2 11:18:35 2004 From: greg at runlevelzero.net (Greg M. Kurtzer) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:18:35 -0800 Subject: [cAos] curious about x86_64 support on caos/cinch In-Reply-To: <41879CA5.9010006@scalableinformatics.com> References: <41879CA5.9010006@scalableinformatics.com> Message-ID: <20041102191835.GB32381@titan.runlevelzero.net> x86_64 is in the works at the moment. We have delayed the alpha release of caos2 while we update the core to support both x86 and x86_64 right from the initial release. If I were to guess, we will be ready to release alpha for both arches by end of this month (maybe sooner depending...). Cinch is ready to install both arches, and I will probably release a pre-release of cinch by end of week for x86_64. Soon... ;) On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 09:41:41AM -0500, Joe Landman wrote: > Folks: > > Last time I asked about x86_64 support, I was pointed over to Tao. > Does caos yet support 64-bit linux on x86_64? > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > cAos mailing list > cAos at caosity.org > http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos -- Greg M. Kurtzer http://runlevelzero.net/ http://caosity.org/ http://warewulf-cluster.org/ From greg at runlevelzero.net Tue Nov 2 11:20:37 2004 From: greg at runlevelzero.net (Greg M. Kurtzer) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:20:37 -0800 Subject: [cAos] 2.6 kernel In-Reply-To: References: <20041102043112.GB28113@titan.runlevelzero.net> Message-ID: <20041102192037.GC32381@titan.runlevelzero.net> On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 09:32:30AM -0500, Charlie Brady wrote: > > Remember also, that VT3 ([alt]-[F3]) shows errors. > > Yep. Segfaults reported there. What version of cinch, and what kinda hardware? I would assume not the most recent cinch, and fairly new hardware that supports noexec. When your in the syslinux screen for cinch, is there a 'safe' option? If so, try that. Safe has been removed as an option, and now all options are considered "safe". > Thanks. Note that http://caosity.org/projects/cinch refers to > documentation at /cAos-2/docs/install which doesn't appear to exist. Yea,... we still need to update that. Thanks! -- Greg M. Kurtzer http://runlevelzero.net/ http://caosity.org/ http://warewulf-cluster.org/ From kuko at maarmas.com Tue Nov 2 11:47:26 2004 From: kuko at maarmas.com (Miguel Armas) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:47:26 +0000 Subject: [cAos] HA cluster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1099424845.12060.31.camel@homer> On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 15:02, Malcolm Baxter wrote: > Well it will run all the usuals in a web server. Mysql, PHP, Apache, Exim > or Postfix, Bind, and so forth. So yes it will be for web purposes. I also > subscribe to the warewulf mail list as well as Rock cluster but those are > not what this project will be. Thanks for any help Some months ago I installed a similar system for a client (the local University). The system used the following architecture: HA-NFS Cluster - External shared storage or Network RAID1 (drbd) | Load-Balanced Web server farm (any number of servers) | HA-LVS - Load balancing HA cluster. The good thing is that all this is installed in just two nodes. Each node is part of the LVS and NFS HA cluster and the Web server farm. While both nodes are online, they share the Web load. If the master fails, the other node takes control. If you want to add more horsepower just add servers in the second layer (you only need two servers for each HA cluster). This solution is very scalable because you can separate layers in different servers as needed... I'll be very happy to contribute all this to the centos/caos project (specially if I get some help to document all the process), I've been quite busy lately, but I hope I'll have some more time now... You may need to change something to have MySQL in HA. I've also used my configuration for HA Samba clusters and it works great... Salu2! -- -------------------------------------- Miguel Armas Consultor de Sistemas y Comunicaciones Ing. Tec. de Telecomunicaciones -------------------------------------- From charlieb-caos at budge.apana.org.au Tue Nov 2 13:32:08 2004 From: charlieb-caos at budge.apana.org.au (Charlie Brady) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:32:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: cinch probs (Re: [cAos] 2.6 kernel) In-Reply-To: <20041102192037.GC32381@titan.runlevelzero.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Greg M. Kurtzer wrote: > On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 09:32:30AM -0500, Charlie Brady wrote: > > > Remember also, that VT3 ([alt]-[F3]) shows errors. > > > > Yep. Segfaults reported there. > > What version of cinch, and what kinda hardware? I would assume not the most > recent cinch, and fairly new hardware that supports noexec. Very recent cinch (3.0.0 beta 26), on Vmware GSX on a P4. And also had grub-install fail on beta 20, on a Thinkpad T23. Can't repeat the latter, since it now has CentOS-3 installed. Followup on bugzilla, but not until tomorrow. --- Charlie From greg at runlevelzero.net Thu Nov 4 05:20:52 2004 From: greg at runlevelzero.net (Greg M. Kurtzer) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 05:20:52 -0800 Subject: cinch probs (Re: [cAos] 2.6 kernel) In-Reply-To: References: <20041102192037.GC32381@titan.runlevelzero.net> Message-ID: <20041104132052.GC13183@titan.runlevelzero.net> Hrmm... I can not test with VMWare GSX, but I can say that it works fine with VMWare Workstation. There were problems with VMWare Workstation with anything but the very latest version. It looks as though only the newest version (3.1) has brought in support for the 2.6 kernel, but only seems to mention distros that use the 2.4 kernel IIRC. http://www.vmware.com/support/gsx3/doc/whatsnew_gsx.html Is there a "normal" computer you can test on? Too bad we can't try to recreate the problem your IBM was having. I can say that I got my IBM T42p installed, but there was a bug which caused the grub-install to take _LONG_. I will test this some more. On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Charlie Brady wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Greg M. Kurtzer wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 09:32:30AM -0500, Charlie Brady wrote: > > > > Remember also, that VT3 ([alt]-[F3]) shows errors. > > > > > > Yep. Segfaults reported there. > > > > What version of cinch, and what kinda hardware? I would assume not the most > > recent cinch, and fairly new hardware that supports noexec. > > Very recent cinch (3.0.0 beta 26), on Vmware GSX on a P4. And also had > grub-install fail on beta 20, on a Thinkpad T23. Can't repeat the latter, > since it now has CentOS-3 installed. > > Followup on bugzilla, but not until tomorrow. > > --- > Charlie > > _______________________________________________ > cAos mailing list > cAos at caosity.org > http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos -- Greg M. Kurtzer http://runlevelzero.net/ http://caosity.org/ http://warewulf-cluster.org/ From scott at osuosl.org Tue Nov 2 08:57:52 2004 From: scott at osuosl.org (Scott Kveton) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:57:52 -0800 Subject: [cAos] Re: [cAos-mirror] should cAos block access to mirror.caosity.org? In-Reply-To: References: <20041031232109.GB21151@osuosl.org> Message-ID: <20041102165752.GM12844@osuosl.org> > >I would do either or; the big problem you have with both end-users and > >mirrors accessing the same data is that then you have mirrors competing > >for bandwidth. Giving the mirrors unfettered access to the archives > >allows you to push updates out to clients more quickly than having a > >single choke point. > > my main argument for why medium to large projects should quickly start > looking at tiered infrastructure and concentrate on getting data pushed > to mirrors quickly rather than sizing up their own kit. it is similar > resources but a simpler problem to deal with 100+ mirrors than 100+ > simultaneous clients from a userbase of 1000-100000 people. I think this is a great idea as well, but who is going to do it? At the end of the day the cAos folks need to find a way to stop the bleeding in terms of paying for ISP overages ... engineering a complete solution would be nice but we all only have a finite amount of time/resources. That is unless you're volunteering Jason? :-) I'll offer it up again; we'd be more than happy to host the mirror that tier1's sync from. Scott :-) From jason at rtfmconsult.com Tue Nov 2 14:22:51 2004 From: jason at rtfmconsult.com (jason andrade) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:22:51 +1000 (EST) Subject: [cAos] Re: [cAos-mirror] should cAos block access to mirror.caosity.org? In-Reply-To: <20041102165752.GM12844@osuosl.org> References: <20041031232109.GB21151@osuosl.org> <20041102165752.GM12844@osuosl.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Scott Kveton wrote: > I think this is a great idea as well, but who is going to do it? At the > end of the day the cAos folks need to find a way to stop the bleeding in > terms of paying for ISP overages ... engineering a complete solution > would be nice but we all only have a finite amount of time/resources. > That is unless you're volunteering Jason? :-) > > I'll offer it up again; we'd be more than happy to host the mirror that > tier1's sync from. to be honest scott, there's probably not a lot of original work to do here as a lot of the engineering has previously been done in various other projects (apache, debian, gentoo, redhat, freebsd etc) over the last few years. yes, there is some coordination required but who is currently doing that already ? or is there a dedicated 'mirror' resource needed ? i'd consider volunteering to set it up if there's noone already. in terms of structure i'd propose something pretty simple. cAos has the following concept. 3 master sites for mirrors to sync from: ftp-master.cAos (ftp0, the main master site, not accessible to end users at a network level) ftp-master.us.cAos (say, your site, the one more people would sync from) ftp-master.eu.cAos (e.g a site in europe) ftp-master.au.cAos (e.g a site in asia pacific) the sync mechanism is that files are uploaded to an area of ftp-master and then simultaneously pushed to the other master sites. i'd recommend a couple of other things - encourage ssh2 push triggers where possible and setting up the mirror monitoring system that hank penning developed. it's become a defacto standard for monitoring now IMHO. the key to the above is keeping it as simple as possible. the multiple tier system works pretty well for e.g freebsd. it also allows for syncing from multiple masters for very large releases. regards, -jason From gravesricharde at yahoo.com Sat Nov 6 15:33:44 2004 From: gravesricharde at yahoo.com (Rick Graves) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 15:33:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [cAos] why developers got stuck with huge ISP bill In-Reply-To: <20041105120001.15574.7851.Mailman@caos1.caosity.org> Message-ID: <20041106233344.21729.qmail@web14727.mail.yahoo.com> Lance, Let's go at this from another angle. > I am absolutely certain having analysed the logs > that the excess bandwidth was caused by people > downloading .iso images for centos from our > master mirror(s) .... How could this happen? Here is my explanation: 1) As far as I am aware, the cAos site does NOT ask distro users to download from public mirrors, rather than from the master mirror. 2) On install, yum.conf points to the master mirror. 3) Even if a distro user puts in a custom yum.conf file that points to a public mirror, "yum update" can remove the custom yum.conf file, and put in its place a yum.conf that points to the master mirror. 4) From 2 & 3, I got the impression that it is OK, even encouraged, to download directly from the master mirror. This is supported by the lack of any request not to do so, 1. 5) Maybe lots of other distro users got the same impression as 4. That is my explanation. Does anyone have a better explanation for Lance's analysis of the logs? Rick From mej at caosity.org Tue Nov 23 13:30:54 2004 From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:30:54 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Wiki Choices Message-ID: <20041123213054.GZ30659@kainx.org> I have selected 4 software packages for us to evaluate in order to decide on the best possible engine for the much-requested cAos Community Wiki. All 4 samples are now up and running for you to try out, play around with, and evalute. The URL's are as follows: https://caos.nplus1.net/c-arbre/ https://caos.nplus1.net/dokuwiki/ https://caos.nplus1.net/pwp/ https://caos.nplus1.net/tikiwiki/ Both C-Arbre and Tikiwiki allow for individual user registration and accounts, and they both offer more than simply a Wiki engine. Dokuwiki and PWP are strictly wikis, the former being designed specifically for collaborative documentation. Please note that I have done little or no customization to these samples thus far. Graphics, color schemes, etc. will be finalized after we choose a Wiki. Right now we're evaluating the samples for flexibility, features, ease of use, compliance with wiki standards, etc. I would appreciate your feedback. Send it to mej at caosity.org, post to the mailing list, or add it to the wiki itself. Thanks, Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "When I was in prison, I was wrapped in all those deep books. That Tolstoy crap. People shouldn't read that stuff." -- boxer Mike Tyson on what he read before he decided he preferred comic books From dpilon at dpilon.com Tue Nov 23 20:19:11 2004 From: dpilon at dpilon.com (Denis E. Pilon) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:19:11 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Wiki... Message-ID: <1101269951.2912.2.camel@localhost> I vote for twikiwiki... Also see it in action here: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php DP From tmattox at gmail.com Wed Nov 24 07:23:19 2004 From: tmattox at gmail.com (Tim Mattox) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:23:19 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Wiki Choices In-Reply-To: <20041123213054.GZ30659@kainx.org> References: <20041123213054.GZ30659@kainx.org> Message-ID: I think it is important that we pick a Wiki that has an active developer community that is security conscious. Here is a recent example of an exploited Wiki security hole: http://lwn.net/Articles/112614/ As for which Wiki to choose based on that criteria, I unfortunately don't have any further useful input yet. Maybe when I'm half awake digesting tryptophan tomorrow, I'll take a look at some of the Wiki choices... :-) -- Tim Mattox - tmattox at gmail.com - http://homepage.mac.com/tmattox/ From mej at caosity.org Wed Nov 24 12:27:17 2004 From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:27:17 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Re: [Centos] Wiki Choices In-Reply-To: <41A47121.1040504@yahoo.fr> References: <20041123213054.GZ30659@kainx.org> <20041123213054.GZ30659@kainx.org> <20041123213054.GZ30659@kainx.org> <41A47121.1040504@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <20041124202717.GF4178@kainx.org> On Wednesday, 24 November 2004, at 12:31:45 (+0100), sophana wrote: > tikiwiki looks great even if I have permission denied to do anything > even after being registered. I think I fixed that. Please try again. :) On Wednesday, 24 November 2004, at 09:09:39 (-0500), Andy Masiar wrote: > I don't know if its too late for wiki suggestions, but I would like > to point out MoinMoin Wiki http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ Already looked at it. On Wednesday, 24 November 2004, at 10:23:19 (-0500), Tim Mattox wrote: > I think it is important that we pick a Wiki that has an active > developer community that is security conscious. Here is a recent > example of an exploited Wiki security hole: > http://lwn.net/Articles/112614/ > > As for which Wiki to choose based on that criteria, I unfortunately > don't have any further useful input yet. Maybe when I'm half awake > digesting tryptophan tomorrow, I'll take a look at some of the Wiki > choices... :-) I agree. Unfortunately, tikiwiki doesn't have a security or an announcements list. But perhaps they could be talked into one.... Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I always wait until a jury has spoken before I anticipate what they will do." -- US Attorney General Janet Reno