From jed at nersc.gov Wed Dec 1 18:48:02 2004 From: jed at nersc.gov (Jed Donnelley) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:48:02 -0800 Subject: [cAos] cAos wiki choice Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20041201182701.064dd5d0@imap.nersc.gov> Michael, Regarding your wiki testing: >I have selected 4 software packages for us to evaluate in order to >decide on the best possible engine for the much-requested cAos >Community Wiki. All 4 samples are now up and running for you to try >out, play around with, and evalute. The URL's are as follows: > >https://caos.nplus1.net/c-arbre/ >https://caos.nplus1.net/dokuwiki/ >https://caos.nplus1.net/pwp/ >https://caos.nplus1.net/tikiwiki/ I'd be interested to know why you didn't test TWiki: http://twiki.org/ for evaluation. It seems to have a more developed wiki community than most ( all?) of those you are testing. If you were aware of it and excluded it, I'd be interested to hear why since we are running several instances (to good effect so far). Regarding: c-arbre - I tried to register and got some sort of Javascript error message in French (!!) that I couldn't understand. Something about 15 caract? ... s'il vous pla?t... docuwiki - allow anonymous users to edit? Not good. pwp - again anonymous editing? tikiwiki - how does one register? --Jed http://www.nersc.gov/~jed/ From mej at caosity.org Thu Dec 2 15:39:33 2004 From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 18:39:33 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Re: cAos wiki choice In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20041201182701.064dd5d0@imap.nersc.gov> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20041201182701.064dd5d0@imap.nersc.gov> Message-ID: <20041202233933.GN6543@kainx.org> On Wednesday, 01 December 2004, at 18:48:02 (-0800), Jed Donnelley wrote: > I'd be interested to know why you didn't test TWiki: > > http://twiki.org/ > > for evaluation. It seems to have a more developed wiki community > than most ( all?) of those you are testing. If you were aware of it > and excluded it, I'd be interested to hear why since we are running > several instances (to good effect so far). Significantly painful installation resulting in non-functional system. Even dokuwiki and PWP were more mature than that. > Regarding: > > c-arbre - I tried to register and got some > sort of Javascript error message in French (!!) > that I couldn't understand. Something about > 15 caract? ... s'il vous pla?t... Yes, the French everywhere was a drawback. Had it been chosen, I'd have translated those errors appropriately, but that won't be necessary. > tikiwiki - how does one register? There's a "register" link in the login box. Unless someone has a strong objection, tikiwiki is the winner. So if you haven't registered already, be sure to do so. :) And let me know if you run into problems. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I will remember you. Will you remember me? Don't let your life pass you by. Weep not for the memories." -- Sarah MacLachlan From greg at runlevelzero.net Thu Dec 2 22:55:59 2004 From: greg at runlevelzero.net (Greg M. Kurtzer) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:55:59 -0800 Subject: [cAos] caos linux project site up... Message-ID: <20041203065559.GA23205@titan.runlevelzero.net> I finished the initial version of the cAos Linux Project web site. Please check it out at: http://caos.caosity.org/ and send me comments, and more content to post there! Thanks. -- Greg M. Kurtzer http://runlevelzero.net/ http://caosity.org/ http://warewulf-cluster.org/ From gravesricharde at yahoo.com Fri Dec 3 05:02:57 2004 From: gravesricharde at yahoo.com (Rick Graves) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 05:02:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [cAos] Re: tikiwiki In-Reply-To: <20041203120000.12716.50088.Mailman@caos1.caosity.org> Message-ID: <20041203130257.31218.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Michael, > And let me know > if you run into problems. I had two small problems, 1) I had to dig through old email addresses to find the link, https://caos.nplus1.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php It would be nice to have the link on the web site. 2) Konqueror said the certificate for the site was invalid, and asked whether I wanted Konqueror to remind me every time I visited the site. (I replied "No", but it looks bad.) Rick From sinner at escomposlinux.org Fri Dec 3 06:10:49 2004 From: sinner at escomposlinux.org (Sinner from the Prairy) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:10:49 -0500 Subject: [cAos] caos linux project site up... In-Reply-To: <20041203065559.GA23205@titan.runlevelzero.net> References: <20041203065559.GA23205@titan.runlevelzero.net> Message-ID: <200412030910.56442.sinner@escomposlinux.org> On Friday 03 December 2004 01:55, Greg M. Kurtzer wrote: > I finished the initial version of the cAos Linux Project web site. > Please check it out at: http://caos.caosity.org/ and send me > comments, and more content to post there! > > Thanks. I like the clarity and choice of colours for this caos sub-site. I navigated the whole site and did not find any error. Looks good in both Konqueror and Firefox. My guess is that we would need more screenshots, with different colour schemes. Say, with more usual colour schemes. The tie-dye-shirt-alike is... well, different. Thank you for the great work! Salut, SInner -- http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/ || http://mandrake.badopi.org Linux User #89976 - MandrakeLinux 10.1-Official -Linux Machine #38068 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.infiscale.org/pipermail/caos/attachments/20041203/66c811b1/attachment.bin From csmiga at n2bb.com Fri Dec 3 06:27:57 2004 From: csmiga at n2bb.com (Christopher Smiga) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:27:57 -0500 Subject: [cAos] cAos Linux Live CD??? Message-ID: <41B077ED.1030607@n2bb.com> Question: Has anyone thought about a cAos Linux Live CD (similar to Knoppix). Thank you, Christopher Smiga From jrw at nplus1.net Fri Dec 3 06:46:01 2004 From: jrw at nplus1.net (Jacob Robert Wilkins) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:46:01 -0500 Subject: [cAos] caos linux project site up... In-Reply-To: <20041203065559.GA23205@titan.runlevelzero.net> References: <20041203065559.GA23205@titan.runlevelzero.net> Message-ID: <20041203144601.GA17633@nplus1.net> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:55:59PM -0800, Greg M. Kurtzer wrote: > I finished the initial version of the cAos Linux Project web site. Please > check it out at: http://caos.caosity.org/ and send me comments, and more > content to post there! The "caos" logo in the upper right is a little too 1989 for my tastes. But, other than that, it looks great. jrw From jim at rossberry.com Fri Dec 3 06:52:33 2004 From: jim at rossberry.com (Jim Wildman) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:52:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cAos] caos linux project site up... In-Reply-To: <20041203144601.GA17633@nplus1.net> References: <20041203065559.GA23205@titan.runlevelzero.net> <20041203144601.GA17633@nplus1.net> Message-ID: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:55:59PM -0800, Greg M. Kurtzer wrote: > > I finished the initial version of the cAos Linux Project web site. Please > > check it out at: http://caos.caosity.org/ and send me comments, and more > > content to post there! Notice the coloration and theme change when you go to the downloads page and when you go to the cAos foundation page. Maybe intentional. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE jim at rossberry.com http://www.rossberry.com "Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine From mej at caosity.org Fri Dec 3 07:11:52 2004 From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:11:52 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Re: tikiwiki In-Reply-To: <20041203130257.31218.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041203120000.12716.50088.Mailman@caos1.caosity.org> <20041203130257.31218.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20041203151152.GK5228@kainx.org> On Friday, 03 December 2004, at 05:02:57 (-0800), Rick Graves wrote: > 1) I had to dig through old email addresses to find > the link, > > https://caos.nplus1.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php > > It would be nice to have the link on the web site. https://caos.nplus1.net/tikiwiki/ And it will be moved, or at least given a better URL, in the not-too-distant future. > 2) Konqueror said the certificate for the site was invalid, and > asked whether I wanted Konqueror to remind me every time I visited > the site. (I replied "No", but it looks bad.) It's a self-signed cert. You'll live. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Happiness is the exercise of vital powers along lines of excellence in a life affording them scope." -- Aristotle From jed at nersc.gov Fri Dec 3 10:59:38 2004 From: jed at nersc.gov (Jed Donnelley) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 10:59:38 -0800 Subject: [cAos] Re: cAos digest, Vol 1 #293 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <20041203120000.12716.50088.Mailman@caos1.caosity.org> References: <20041203120000.12716.50088.Mailman@caos1.caosity.org> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20041203103713.0ee72c50@imap4.lbl.gov> At 04:00 AM 12/3/2004, caos-request at caosity.org wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 18:39:33 -0500 >From: Michael Jennings >To: caos at caosity.org >Subject: [cAos] Re: cAos wiki choice >Reply-To: caos at caosity.org > >On Wednesday, 01 December 2004, at 18:48:02 (-0800), >Jed Donnelley wrote: > > > I'd be interested to know why you didn't test TWiki: > > > > http://twiki.org/ > > > > for evaluation. It seems to have a more developed wiki community > > than most ( all?) of those you are testing. If you were aware of it > > and excluded it, I'd be interested to hear why since we are running > > several instances (to good effect so far). > >Significantly painful installation resulting in non-functional >system. Even dokuwiki and PWP were more mature than that. Interesting that we should have such different experiences. For us the installation was trivial and the functionality quite good. I'm curious to know what sort of functionality you found not there after your painful installation. Most of our twiki sites require authentication, but here's one that doesn't: http://ftg.lbl.gov/ for anybody interested. > > tikiwiki - how does one register? > >There's a "register" link in the login box. Ah. I got registered. It also looks like quite a capable wiki. "Save to notepad" (toolbar element, second from right at the upper right of the home page) - what's that about? Didn't seem to do anything for me. "monitor this page" (last toolbar element) - I like the idea. Perhaps I'll get a chance to try tikiwiki enough to appreciate any value there. --Jed http://www.nersc.gov/~jed/ From mej at caosity.org Fri Dec 3 12:08:53 2004 From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:08:53 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Re: cAos digest, Vol 1 #293 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20041203103713.0ee72c50@imap4.lbl.gov> References: <20041203120000.12716.50088.Mailman@caos1.caosity.org> <6.2.0.14.0.20041203103713.0ee72c50@imap4.lbl.gov> Message-ID: <20041203200853.GO6543@kainx.org> On Friday, 03 December 2004, at 10:59:38 (-0800), Jed Donnelley wrote: > Ah. I got registered. It also looks like quite a capable wiki. I thought so too. And easy to install. :) > "Save to notepad" (toolbar element, second from right at the upper > right of the home page) - what's that about? Didn't seem to do > anything for me. Click on "Notepad" toward the right side of the personal toolbar (just under the big white header). > "monitor this page" (last toolbar element) - I like the idea. Me too. Very handy. > Perhaps I'll get a chance to try tikiwiki enough to appreciate any > value there. I hope so. I'd like to start getting some docs up. :) Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was." -- Walt West From m.stolte at datadevil.demon.nl Fri Dec 3 13:49:33 2004 From: m.stolte at datadevil.demon.nl (Maarten Stolte) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:49:33 +0100 Subject: [cAos] caos linux project site up... In-Reply-To: References: <20041203065559.GA23205@titan.runlevelzero.net> <20041203144601.GA17633@nplus1.net> Message-ID: <1102110573.2625.3.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 09:52 -0500, Jim Wildman wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:55:59PM -0800, Greg M. Kurtzer wrote: > > > I finished the initial version of the cAos Linux Project web site. Please > > > check it out at: http://caos.caosity.org/ and send me comments, and more > > > content to post there! > > Notice the coloration and theme change when you go to the downloads page > and when you go to the cAos foundation page. Maybe intentional. yes, as caosity.org is meant to be the foundations site, covering centralised and foundation needs, and caos.caosity.org and hopefully centos and other sub projects will be subsites on that domain, like the Apache site model. Maarten From greg at runlevelzero.net Fri Dec 3 18:15:25 2004 From: greg at runlevelzero.net (Greg M. Kurtzer) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 18:15:25 -0800 Subject: [cAos] cAos Linux Live CD??? In-Reply-To: <41B077ED.1030607@n2bb.com> References: <41B077ED.1030607@n2bb.com> Message-ID: <20041204021525.GA29411@titan.runlevelzero.net> I had a prototype ISO builder which I can't seem to find anymore. Luckily, I gave a copy of it to Russ. Mr. Orc: Do you have a copy still? Is someone interested in development of this? On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 09:27:57AM -0500, Christopher Smiga wrote: > > Question: > > Has anyone thought about a cAos Linux Live CD (similar to Knoppix). > > Thank you, > Christopher Smiga > > _______________________________________________ > cAos mailing list > cAos at caosity.org > http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/caos -- Greg M. Kurtzer http://runlevelzero.net/ http://caosity.org/ http://warewulf-cluster.org/ From herrold at owlriver.com Tue Dec 7 19:34:12 2004 From: herrold at owlriver.com (R P Herrold) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:34:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cAos] Re: cAos] cAos Linux Live CD??? In-Reply-To: <20041204021525.GA29411@titan.runlevelzero.net> References: <41B077ED.1030607@n2bb.com> <20041204021525.GA29411@titan.runlevelzero.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Greg M. Kurtzer wrote: > I had a prototype ISO builder which I can't seem to find anymore. Luckily, I > gave a copy of it to Russ. > > Mr. Orc: Do you have a copy still? > > Is someone interested in development of this? absolutely -- I pulled the copy off my FTP site as it was so stale -- based on RHL 8. I was thinking that I needed to build it under caos-1, and will take a dink with it in the next couple days. - Russ From mattboston at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 05:59:38 2004 From: mattboston at gmail.com (Matt Shields) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:59:38 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Exciting news about cAos & CentOS - Please read Message-ID: <10071692041215055971d1a1fc@mail.gmail.com> I have the great pleasure to announce that the cAos Foundation has been given the right to an exhibitor booth at the upcoming LinuxWorld Expo in Boston, Massachusetts from February 15th - 17th. (More info here: http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12BOS05A). This is a awesome opportunity to further cAos and CentOS linux. But I do not feel that we should give 1/2 an effort. I feel that we need to make a big impression. The biggest thing I am looking for is volunteers that can help me make this a large success. Just because you cannot attend also does not mean you cannot help, there are numerous ways to. Through my employer I'm trying to acquire a Exhibit Kiosk and some computers and servers for demo purposes. But there are lots of other things that I feel we need to succeed(but feel free to comment if you think of something else) Items needed: Volunteers for working in booth cAos Foundation, cAos Linux & CentOS banners & signs Marketing flyers for cAos Foundation, cAos Linux & CentOS CD's for cAos & CentOS If you have any interest in helping or have any ideas to make this a success, please contact me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Matt Shields http://masnetworks.biz/ http://www.caosity.org/ From pinda at ndaki.com Wed Dec 15 06:24:51 2004 From: pinda at ndaki.com (Pinda Ndaki) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:24:51 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Exciting news about cAos & CentOS - Please read In-Reply-To: <10071692041215055971d1a1fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <10071692041215055971d1a1fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41C04933.3080209@ndaki.com> I'd like to help Cut CD's Pinda Matt Shields wrote: >I have the great pleasure to announce that the cAos Foundation has >been given the right to an exhibitor booth at the upcoming LinuxWorld >Expo in Boston, Massachusetts from February 15th - 17th. (More info >here: http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12BOS05A). > >This is a awesome opportunity to further cAos and CentOS linux. But I >do not feel that we should give 1/2 an effort. I feel that we need to >make a big impression. > >The biggest thing I am looking for is volunteers that can help me make >this a large success. Just because you cannot attend also does not >mean you cannot help, there are numerous ways to. Through my employer >I'm trying to acquire a Exhibit Kiosk and some computers and servers >for demo purposes. But there are lots of other things that I feel we >need to succeed(but feel free to comment if you think of something >else) > >Items needed: >Volunteers for working in booth >cAos Foundation, cAos Linux & CentOS banners & signs >Marketing flyers for cAos Foundation, cAos Linux & CentOS >CD's for cAos & CentOS > >If you have any interest in helping or have any ideas to make this a >success, please contact me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > From mej at caosity.org Thu Dec 16 16:02:23 2004 From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:02:23 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Wiki Moved Message-ID: <20041217000223.GN6543@kainx.org> The Wiki has moved to https://wiki.caosity.org/ Please update bookmarks and such. As always, notify me if you have problems. Unless you have problems with the self-signed cert, in which case you need to "Accept this certificate permanently" and get over it. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "You did not tell the truth, and so you will have to pay the consequences." -- Bob Barker, "Truth or Consequences" From mej at caosity.org Fri Dec 17 11:46:26 2004 From: mej at caosity.org (Michael Jennings) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:46:26 -0500 Subject: [cAos] Re: [Centos] Wiki Moved In-Reply-To: <41C32D2A.7010401@fluid.com> References: <20041217000223.GN6543@kainx.org> <41C32D2A.7010401@fluid.com> Message-ID: <20041217194626.GT6543@kainx.org> On Friday, 17 December 2004, at 11:02:02 (-0800), Troy Engel wrote: > Is there a reason that anonymous browsing of the FAQ and/or Wiki > areas are denied? ("You dont have permission to use this feature") I just forgot to fix the Anonymous permissions. Should be fine now. :) Thanks, Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "He who hesitates, dies." -- Greg Lippman From tengel at fluid.com Fri Dec 17 11:02:02 2004 From: tengel at fluid.com (Troy Engel) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:02:02 -0800 Subject: [cAos] Re: [Centos] Wiki Moved In-Reply-To: <20041217000223.GN6543@kainx.org> References: <20041217000223.GN6543@kainx.org> Message-ID: <41C32D2A.7010401@fluid.com> Hi Michael, Is there a reason that anonymous browsing of the FAQ and/or Wiki areas are denied? ("You dont have permission to use this feature") thx, -te Michael Jennings wrote: > The Wiki has moved to https://wiki.caosity.org/ > > Please update bookmarks and such. As always, notify me if you have > problems. Unless you have problems with the self-signed cert, in > which case you need to "Accept this certificate permanently" and get > over it. > > Michael > -- Troy Engel | Systems Engineer Fluid, Inc | http://www.fluid.com From mattboston at gmail.com Mon Dec 20 18:02:55 2004 From: mattboston at gmail.com (Matt Shields) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:02:55 -0500 Subject: [cAos] cAos or CentOS users in Boston/New England Message-ID: <10071692041220180253aba554@mail.gmail.com> Are there any users of cAos or CentOS in the Boston or New England area? -- Matt Shields http://masnetworks.biz http://www.centos.org http://www.caosity.org From greg at runlevelzero.net Tue Dec 21 12:00:39 2004 From: greg at runlevelzero.net (Greg M. Kurtzer) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:00:39 -0800 Subject: [cAos] Announcing the prerelease of cAos-2 for ia32! Message-ID: <20041221200039.GA9966@titan.runlevelzero.net> The cAos Foundation and the cAos Linux Development Team are proud to announce the prerelease of cAos Linux Core 2.0 for the IA-32 platform. cAos Linux is a community-managed and openly-maintained distribution of Linux using the LSB-standard RPM Package Manager. This release identifies the stabilization of the ABI in, and a feature freeze of, the core OS. Members of the community are invited to install and test this new distribution core. The cAos Linux distribution is divided into two parts: the Core OS and the Extended OS. The Core OS ("core") is maintained by the project's Core OS Development Team and provides the base system under which both the core itself and the Extended OS ("ext") are built. All distribution packages are required to build under core using only specifically-requested build dependencies. Packages in the Extended OS ("ext") can be maintained by community volunteers and project developers outside the core team; this offers the community a free and open development infrastructure into which they can contribute packages while simultaneously providing a stable core platform with a 3-5 year maintenance lifespan. Version 2 of the cAos IA-32 Core will remain in pre-release status for a trial period of no less than 3 weeks and until all identified critical bugs have been resolved. At that time, the IA-32 core will be released as stable. The x86_64 Core OS will follow shortly thereafter. We are currently in need of documentators and other extended package maintainers. If you are interested, please join and send email to the caos-devel email list, or join us at irc.freenode.net, #caos. More information can be found at http://caos.caosity.org/ Have fun. -- Greg M. Kurtzer http://runlevelzero.net/ http://caosity.org/ http://warewulf-cluster.org/